STATE ProLine water heater

[Gregmech26]

I called the plumber who did a good job installing our 4 toilets that we purchased from Lowes a couple years ago. Apparently this plumber installs everything plumbing-related for Lowes and has good reviews online. I asked him for an estimate to install a Rheem Pro water heater as I heard it had the best ratings and was only available to plumbers.

He said he prefers to only deal with STATE water heaters as he installs a dozen STATE water heaters a week. He said I can pick any water heater and he basically charges $500 extra to install it.

He provided this link:

http://www.statewaterheaters.com/Pr...-Recovery-Gas-Tank-Water-Heater-GS6-100-URRT/

Are STATE Proline water heaters any good, or should I find a plumber willing to install a Rheem Pro?

Is A.O. Smith Proline the same thing as STATE Proline?

Which is better: Rheem? A.O. Smith? State?

 

[MACPLUMB]

A. O. SMITH AND STATE ARE THE SAME COMPANY, THAT SAID I BELIEVE RHEEM IS BETTER, A.O./STATE
HAS HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEIR BURNERS

 

[Sponsor]

 

[Gregmech26]

That's what I've read. I think I will go with this Rheem Pro:

https://www.rheem.com/product/resid...essional-classic-plus-series-heavy-duty#tab-5

 

[Master Plumber Mark]

State is junk, Smith is junk and both of them are exactly like the old whirlpool heaters.....

the Rheem pro you get at a plumbing supply house is a much better grade of heater....

 

[Dj2]

Picking Water Heaters is the same as Las Vegas betting. There is no absolute best heater. Each brand can have the best or the worst on any given day.

I go for the lowest cost WH.

 

[Gregmech26]

I just got the Rheem Pro Classic "commercial" water heater with 76,000 BTU from a plumbing supply company with metal thermostat instead of plastic installed in my residential basement. It cost me a grand total of $2410 installed with 8-year Rheem warranty and 2-year labor warranty. I know I likely overpaid.

Anyhow, I'm happy with my purchase as I can now take a 15 minute HOT shower with my 6 GPM old-school shower head. My old water heater ( 3 years old) that I replaced was a Bradford White "high-recovery" 50 gallon. The 50-gallon still gave me 12 minutes hot shower, but the pressure is stronger with the Rheem 75-gallon. I can notice a little pooling of water accumulation on the shower floor which was not existent before.

The Rheem has two giant dielectric unions for the 3/4 copper pipe, as opposed to the 1/2 unions on the smaller Bradford White. I had hopes the plumber wouldn't use them, or replace them with SS flex.

Perhaps I should have gone with the dual 50-gallon high recovery units instead?

Anyhow, when I'm done showering I lower the water heater temp back to LOW so I'm not heating 75 gallons all day, and then prior to showering I just raise the temp to MAX a half hour before showering.

Hopefully this won't mess things up the tank thermostat from constant changing of the thermostat.
It's interesting how a lot of plumbers will "trash talk" things they don't install or know personally about, as opposed to simply saying "I don't know" or "I don't have any experience dealing with that area." I wish more plumbers were educated and more entrepreneurial with that think out-of-the-box mentality like many on this site as opposed to the old-school.

Anyways, so far so good after two days. Hopefully I will still be able to take a 15-minute HOT shower after a couple years, because in my experience each year that goes by seems to shed a couple minutes of hot water from my shower.

Thanks for all the good advice.

 

[Ladiesman217]

Anyhow, when I'm done showering I lower the water heater temp back to LOW so I'm not heating 75 gallons all day, and then prior to showering I just raise the temp to MAX a half hour before showering.

Hopefully this won't mess things up the tank thermostat from constant changing of the thermostat.

That procedure must get old pretty quickly. Does that procedure really save you any money??????????

How about bacteria buildup?

https://terrylove.com/forums/index....c-mixing-valves-water-heater-tempering.45651/

 

[Gregmech26]

That's a good question. My concern is that I don't want to damage the new water heater by having it set on MAX temp 24-hours a day if I only draw from it once a day for 15minutes.

 

[Ladiesman217]

Measure the temperature of the hot water at a sink. Set the thermostat so the stable hot water output temperature is around 120 ° F. If that water temperature is too cold for you, move the thermostat up 10° at a time until you get it just right.

I don't think the MAX temperature setting is the correct thermostat setting. The way you have things setup, you are the thermostat.