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So, I can never leave well enough alone. Here goes. Late 80s built house, rural Texas, originally had conventional septic. Years ago, a grinder tank was installed when county gave that option. One main line goes out of house that has the toilets, the bathroom sinks and one shower hooked to them. It runs several feet and ties into grinder tank. There is a clean out right outside of house. About a foot or two from grinder tank is another clean out. Another line runs into that mainline somewhere after first clean out. That lines drains kitchen sink, washer and a shower. I know this because when those are draining, I only see water in that clean out. THERE ARE NO SLOW DRAINING OR BACKED UP DRAINS! Problem, gurgling in kitchen sink when washer drains. Getting a little worse with odor.
Plumbing vent for washer, kitchen and shower. One more for other plumbing fixtures. A tub was replaced with the shower that is connected to the washer and kitchen. The drain was moved. I can see that the drain pipe goes down interns which I am assuming that pipe runs into the old tub drain. I hear a constant echo of dripping water inside the kitchen drain. I am wondering what the solution to the gurgling and the echo drip is and I'm wondering if that is actually how that drain should have been installed. Wow this was a long saga for something that really isn't broken!
 

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Yes there is a p-trap Terry...

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I might put a clear p-trap in temporarily, to see if the water level in the two sides of the U differ much. Review say it is not durable, but could be a good troubleshooting tool.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-1-2-in-Clear-Plastic-Sink-Drain-P-Trap-C9705/205153971
I just did that. After using sink, both sides remain full. When raining washing machine water gurgles in there and then after it drains it slowly pulls most of the water out of the p-trap at the sink. I am thinking that it could be the plumbing vent. There was a new roof put on last year and insulation was blown in the Attic. I saw where someone had broken the pipe for the plumbing vent and tried to duct tape it.
 

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I am thinking that it could be the plumbing vent. There was a new roof put on last year and insulation was blown in the Attic. I saw where someone had broken the pipe for the plumbing vent and tried to duct tape it.
Good diagnosis.

You could work around that with an AAV, but fixing the real vent would be preferred.

As that workaround, consider Rectorseal Magic Trap.
https://rectorseal.com/product/magic-trap/

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rectorseal-97406-Micro-Size-Magic-Vent-AAV-w-ABS-Adapter
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rectorseal-97402-Magic-Trap-Tubular-Fitting-w-Tee


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Good diagnosis.

You could work around that with an AAV, but fixing the real vent would be preferred.

As that workaround, consider Rectorseal Magic Trap.
https://rectorseal.com/product/magic-trap/

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rectorseal-97406-Micro-Size-Magic-Vent-AAV-w-ABS-Adapter
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rectorseal-97402-Magic-Trap-Tubular-Fitting-w-Tee


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Good diagnosis.

You could work around that with an AAV, but fixing the real vent would be preferred.

As that workaround, consider Rectorseal Magic Trap.
https://rectorseal.com/product/magic-trap/

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rectorseal-97406-Micro-Size-Magic-Vent-AAV-w-ABS-Adapter
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rectorseal-97402-Magic-Trap-Tubular-Fitting-w-Tee


97402-3.jpg
At this point, I think I am going to get someone to run an augur down vent. If that doesn't work, then aav. The above link, this is piping for aav, where it would attach to top?
 

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a vent broke in half and taped over needs attention.
Oh, it got our attention. My son was on the roof running a water hose down the vent. I turned water on and came in and water was running out of Attic door as the piping is located at the top of Attic ladder. Where the bend was in the pipe, I found fresh duct tape hanging off where it had disconnected when he pushed hose thru. 3 different contractors at least had been in that Attic a few weeks before. I called a plumber to clean vent and reconnect at that point. There was a series of blunders during that visit. I am a two time flooder here. Hurricane Harvey and Imelda. Then we had 2 more hurricanes blow thru this past summer. 3 plumbers haven't shown up in the last 2 months. I have "rose this house from the so called ashes" twice, I'm going to tackle this myself and figure out the problem. I will post it here and resolution. Andrea
 

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You might post a photo of the taped up area and the pipes that you can see from there. I presume that was where the water was exiting the piping.
 

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Andrea with vent hooked up you might find differance. I suspect a blockage or septic issue (getting full)
 

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Andrea with vent hooked up you might find differance. I suspect a blockage or septic issue (getting full)
Approximately 60 gallon grinder tank working perfectly. Washer was snaked 25 ft, sink is not blocked nor is the shower. Nothing backing up or draining slow. It certainly isn't going to hurt to try the studor vent.
 

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Here is the plumbing vent in the Attic where it was repaired after tape was discovered where it broke. When repaired, they put it at more of an angle going down. I don't know if someone broke it before or after they blew in all the insulation up there.
 

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I can only assume it has water in it since I see it is solid water entering it and it is level
I don't think you can make that assumption. It could be a partial vacuum, but not water.


How long does that water line stay at the level in your photo? It's a transient condition, right?
 
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