Hi, been doing a lot of research here. Great forums. Just looking for a bit of advice
I am planning to replace two old 3.5GPF toilets. One because we need to change the color of the one, the other because we would like a higher seat height
You have convinced me to get a Toto. I was planning the following:
Toto Drake Elongated Chair Height ADA compliant in Black - Model #CST744SL-51
and
Toto Entrada Water Sense Chair Height ADA compliant in Cotton White - Model #CST244EF-01
My problem is no plumber I have contacted stocks or carries these. My options are to buy at a big box store - and Lowes says the Drake would arrive in 2 weeks for $416 and the Entrada in a few days for $189. Timeframe is fine with me as there is no rush
But I prefer supporting local businesses so I tried plumbing suppliers and only found one near me that carries these. But they tell me the lead time is quite long on both and their pricing is higher. They also said that to be careful that the Model #CST744SL-51 Lowes sells is not the true 18" ADA height to the seat. Something about the Drake being discontinued but the brought back at a slightly lower height. And they suggested the Drake II - model cst454 - which is more expensive but they say has a much better flushing system.
My questions:
1. Is the Drake II worth the extra money over the Drake (remember I am paying a premium to get it in black)
2. Any concern about getting these Toto's from Lowes (as my only other option is this higher priced local supplier with longer lead times)? Is what he said about the height accurate - I can't imagine Toto makes two variations of the same ADA Drake CST744 in different heights over 16'5"
3. Are these packaged in one box or two if I have to pick up from Lowes?
4. What seat would you recommend for each (not wanting to spend a ton, but particularly on the black toilet would like a little thicker seat to get to near that 18" total height)
5. Alternatively, could I try and salvage the existing black Kohler seat from the toilet it is replacing. Even though the toilet is 30 years old, the seat is fine. Just not sure about how easy it would be to remove and reinstall on the Toto and if I would need new mounting hardware and where to get that
I would in my younger days try to install these myself. But given both are on the second floor, not sure my old body is up to the task. So also going to be hiring a plumber to install - and the going rate seems to be $165 to $180 per toilet to install
Thanks much
I am planning to replace two old 3.5GPF toilets. One because we need to change the color of the one, the other because we would like a higher seat height
You have convinced me to get a Toto. I was planning the following:
Toto Drake Elongated Chair Height ADA compliant in Black - Model #CST744SL-51
and
Toto Entrada Water Sense Chair Height ADA compliant in Cotton White - Model #CST244EF-01
My problem is no plumber I have contacted stocks or carries these. My options are to buy at a big box store - and Lowes says the Drake would arrive in 2 weeks for $416 and the Entrada in a few days for $189. Timeframe is fine with me as there is no rush
But I prefer supporting local businesses so I tried plumbing suppliers and only found one near me that carries these. But they tell me the lead time is quite long on both and their pricing is higher. They also said that to be careful that the Model #CST744SL-51 Lowes sells is not the true 18" ADA height to the seat. Something about the Drake being discontinued but the brought back at a slightly lower height. And they suggested the Drake II - model cst454 - which is more expensive but they say has a much better flushing system.
My questions:
1. Is the Drake II worth the extra money over the Drake (remember I am paying a premium to get it in black)
2. Any concern about getting these Toto's from Lowes (as my only other option is this higher priced local supplier with longer lead times)? Is what he said about the height accurate - I can't imagine Toto makes two variations of the same ADA Drake CST744 in different heights over 16'5"
3. Are these packaged in one box or two if I have to pick up from Lowes?
4. What seat would you recommend for each (not wanting to spend a ton, but particularly on the black toilet would like a little thicker seat to get to near that 18" total height)
5. Alternatively, could I try and salvage the existing black Kohler seat from the toilet it is replacing. Even though the toilet is 30 years old, the seat is fine. Just not sure about how easy it would be to remove and reinstall on the Toto and if I would need new mounting hardware and where to get that
I would in my younger days try to install these myself. But given both are on the second floor, not sure my old body is up to the task. So also going to be hiring a plumber to install - and the going rate seems to be $165 to $180 per toilet to install
Thanks much
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