davehall83
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Hello,
So i am looking for some help. I had water treatment system installed in 2015 when i moved into my home they sold me (a plumber did) a water right impression acid neutralizer. After a year or more found out by having a water treatment company come in and test my water that the plumber sold me a undersized unit and i had more issues that needed addressed so that was $1600 in the trash. Fast forward this company puts in a Pentair Performa 263/742F Autotrol/Logix acid neutralizer with a clack 13x54 tank. Then a water softener a Pentair 268/762 Autotrol/Logix water softener on a clack 10x54 tank. They also installed a pentair ultrafiltration filter a UF-440. After that all was installed (i already had crappy water pressure) the water pressure was so bad it trickled out of the faucets. Id say around 20 PSI or 25. So they came in and put in a franklin eletric inline 400 booster pump after the filtration. That fixed the pressure i had about 20 psi going into pump and 90 psi after pump. Fast forward again, i need a new well pump. Now keep in mind i have still had some filtration issues but choose to not address it and my system was on maintenance contract and cleaned every year. So the well pump i had was a 3/4 hp 7gpm franklin electric 2 wire pump. Now i have a 2 hp 18GPM 18GS20 goulds 3 phase constant pressure system with the VFD 3AS20 controller. So i was told i still have 1.5 ppm iron getting past my filtration. Also the UF-440 ultrafilter that was clogged up was removed. We put in a 10 mic big blue 20 filter. So pressure test came and we had dead on 60 psi to the pressure tank. We turned on the filtration system and guess what we open one faucet an instant 30 psi drop i only had 30 psi after filtration. So we bypassed the acid neturalizer and water softener but keeping in mind we are still going through the big blue and 10 mic filter. Well we open the same faucet we have dead on 60 psi before and after the filter no issues. We then turn the water softener back on and acid neutralizer bam back to 30 psi drop. So that being said, so i dont get taken to the cleaners again i need some advice. First off the guy says its a fact my acid neutrailzer and/or water softener is the problem. I just had them serviced last week and they were cleaned. We did several backwashes and the system had crap coming out of it like iron water. However the unit after back washing several times still we had a 30 psi drop no matter what we did. So he recommend i throw the 10K i paid for all this stuff in the trash and go with his system. He said i should have clack valves, iron curtain , acid neutralizer and softener. He also said he has never seen a psi drop like this on anything he has installed. He said that we cant isolate which one is the culprit since the idiot that installed it didn't bother to install bypass valves. The only bypass valve option we have isolates the acid neutralizer and softener. To make a bypass valve happen would require some work but we definitely know its the equipment and i think its been a problem since day 1. So the guy says first off i should not have a 13x54 acid neutrailzer tank that i should have a 10x54. He thinks that its too much and may be causing my pressure drop. So what should i do, i dont want to spend 9K on his system. I could buy a clack 10x54 tank and try to see if that fixes it and that could be a couple hundred to do that. But how do i size it? my ph is 6.0 from the well so i need a calcite blend. I dont see how 10x54 which is a smaller tank than what i have a 13x54 is going to solve my problem? I am lost here and just need some ideas. I can replace the tanks myself or even system. But once i buy it, i am stuck with it. All the treatment guys i talk to are only trying to push their products and its a big money maker i know. I just need a solution at this point. I can use 10gpm in my home easy. we have 5 people, well water, 6.0 ph, probably 3ppm iron, some maganese etc. I have 3.5 baths. 2 of them have a huge jacuzzi tub and that really puts a toll on the system.
So i am looking for some help. I had water treatment system installed in 2015 when i moved into my home they sold me (a plumber did) a water right impression acid neutralizer. After a year or more found out by having a water treatment company come in and test my water that the plumber sold me a undersized unit and i had more issues that needed addressed so that was $1600 in the trash. Fast forward this company puts in a Pentair Performa 263/742F Autotrol/Logix acid neutralizer with a clack 13x54 tank. Then a water softener a Pentair 268/762 Autotrol/Logix water softener on a clack 10x54 tank. They also installed a pentair ultrafiltration filter a UF-440. After that all was installed (i already had crappy water pressure) the water pressure was so bad it trickled out of the faucets. Id say around 20 PSI or 25. So they came in and put in a franklin eletric inline 400 booster pump after the filtration. That fixed the pressure i had about 20 psi going into pump and 90 psi after pump. Fast forward again, i need a new well pump. Now keep in mind i have still had some filtration issues but choose to not address it and my system was on maintenance contract and cleaned every year. So the well pump i had was a 3/4 hp 7gpm franklin electric 2 wire pump. Now i have a 2 hp 18GPM 18GS20 goulds 3 phase constant pressure system with the VFD 3AS20 controller. So i was told i still have 1.5 ppm iron getting past my filtration. Also the UF-440 ultrafilter that was clogged up was removed. We put in a 10 mic big blue 20 filter. So pressure test came and we had dead on 60 psi to the pressure tank. We turned on the filtration system and guess what we open one faucet an instant 30 psi drop i only had 30 psi after filtration. So we bypassed the acid neturalizer and water softener but keeping in mind we are still going through the big blue and 10 mic filter. Well we open the same faucet we have dead on 60 psi before and after the filter no issues. We then turn the water softener back on and acid neutralizer bam back to 30 psi drop. So that being said, so i dont get taken to the cleaners again i need some advice. First off the guy says its a fact my acid neutrailzer and/or water softener is the problem. I just had them serviced last week and they were cleaned. We did several backwashes and the system had crap coming out of it like iron water. However the unit after back washing several times still we had a 30 psi drop no matter what we did. So he recommend i throw the 10K i paid for all this stuff in the trash and go with his system. He said i should have clack valves, iron curtain , acid neutralizer and softener. He also said he has never seen a psi drop like this on anything he has installed. He said that we cant isolate which one is the culprit since the idiot that installed it didn't bother to install bypass valves. The only bypass valve option we have isolates the acid neutralizer and softener. To make a bypass valve happen would require some work but we definitely know its the equipment and i think its been a problem since day 1. So the guy says first off i should not have a 13x54 acid neutrailzer tank that i should have a 10x54. He thinks that its too much and may be causing my pressure drop. So what should i do, i dont want to spend 9K on his system. I could buy a clack 10x54 tank and try to see if that fixes it and that could be a couple hundred to do that. But how do i size it? my ph is 6.0 from the well so i need a calcite blend. I dont see how 10x54 which is a smaller tank than what i have a 13x54 is going to solve my problem? I am lost here and just need some ideas. I can replace the tanks myself or even system. But once i buy it, i am stuck with it. All the treatment guys i talk to are only trying to push their products and its a big money maker i know. I just need a solution at this point. I can use 10gpm in my home easy. we have 5 people, well water, 6.0 ph, probably 3ppm iron, some maganese etc. I have 3.5 baths. 2 of them have a huge jacuzzi tub and that really puts a toll on the system.