I realize that this forum has a problem with Champion 4 but should the one piece Champion 4 (new version) be included? Has anybody had any experience with the one piece Champion 4? I was at a plumbing store (Koehler shop) and their opinion was that the Champion 4 had a better flushing system than the Toto in that the "bowl wash" was better. The Champion 4 is also cheaper than the Toto. I don't want "right height" so the Koehler Cimmarron 6's are out.
When replying, please consider the newest models only. Manufacturers put 10 year warranties on products when they were bad in the past and they need to get the customers back. All it means to me is that they are confident that they've fixed the problems and they can afford to extend the warranty. Is there something bad about giving a 10 year warranty?
When replying, please consider the newest models only. Manufacturers put 10 year warranties on products when they were bad in the past and they need to get the customers back. All it means to me is that they are confident that they've fixed the problems and they can afford to extend the warranty. Is there something bad about giving a 10 year warranty?