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Ian Gills

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I'm working without a permit again: insulating water pipes

I'm insulating my water pipes in my unfinished basement with the rubber stuff that has an adhesive on it to stick the two sides together.

Is this worth doing and am I using the right stuff? The pipes before were uninsulated, but the basement does not get that cold since the furnace is down there.

I am also thinking of removing the fiber glass wrapping that is insulating the main line where it enters my basement and using this stuff.

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I also work on existing windows and doors without permits. And I have been known to paint without one too.

Last week I changed the air filter in my AC/furnace. Again, without a permit.

Now, pipe insulation. Is it worth it?
 

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When my new WH went in it came with a 2' section of pipe insulation
The pipe was only warm about 4" up, but I put it on
I checked the pipe again later & now found the pipe was warm about 2" beyond the 2' section of insulation
I added another 4' of insulation & found the same thing
So I insulated all of the HW pipes

My basement is not that cold 55-63 depending if heat is on
But the water is 120, so you are losing heat to the basement
Water stays hotter longer for a nice shower
 
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Insulating hot water lines is worth it. It reduces heat loss on the way to the destination and keeps the water warm longer between draws. Insulating the first few feet of cold water feed to the water heater is also worthwhile since it reduces the driving force for thermosiphon as well as conduction losses in the pipe.

It's worth maybe 10 therms/year for my home.
 

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I also work on existing windows and doors without permits. And I have been known to paint without one too.

Last week I changed the air filter in my AC/furnace. Again, without a permit.

Now, pipe insulation. Is it worth it?

I,ll bet your probably out this weekend too without a permit....:D
 

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Thanks for all the tips.

And for cold lines other than the WH?
 

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Building and energy codes mandate insulation hot water lines anyway so forge ahead with confidence.
 

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send me the money

I also work on existing windows and doors without permits. And I have been known to paint without one too.

Last week I changed the air filter in my AC/furnace. Again, without a permit.

Now, pipe insulation. Is it worth it?

the insulation is ok to do , it will keep the hot water lines from cooling off quicker..
wether it acutally will save all that much is debateable...



on another subject..
Were you aware that their is a permit fee
required to change out light bulbs???


were you aware that changeing a roll of toilet paper also requires a permit fee too??

You being an illegal alien from another country ,
I am willing to let you off easy,
this time only....


send me 50 bucks and we wont
mention this to anyone....
 

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My friend visited me today and told me he just had his pellet stove installation inspected by 2 inspectors. One fire inspector and the building inspector. Neither knew the proper details for an installation like this and just asked if he had the proper clearances for the stove. The fire inspector did not know if there should have been an approved fireproof base or the dimensions if it needed one. The building inspector knew even less and his only questions were.......how much did it cost and do you have the proper clearances for it.......This is not a town in the boondocks......
 

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You being an illegal alien from another country ,
I am willing to let you off easy,
this time only....

Thanks Mark. In that case I won't steal your job...this time only.
 
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