Kingsotall
Plunger/TurdPuncher
The B&D chart referred to soft copper Type L for flaring.
Type L copper can not be flared.
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Luella Reils, 87, and her husband of 67 years, Clyde, 88, were killed in the blast in the first block of Sycamore Lane in Frankfort, which destroyed their home and damaged a dozen more.
Tom Bartnik, Frankfort's development services coordinator, said at least one home to the south of theirs and possibly a second home will have to be demolished.
The force of the explosion scattered the couple's belongings throughout the neighborhood. Anyone who finds things from the Reils' household is asked to take them to the Frankfort Police Department.
Those are absolutly horrifying photos. Thanks for posting them. Unfortunatly I doubt the point will be taken. When certain guys get something in their heads, nothing is going to stop them. I often wonder how many of these guys let their wives see the thread? Bet they'd be making a call to a licensed pro if the old lady got wind of things.
There is a misunderstanding that Propane is more dangerous than Natural gas. They are both equally explosive and dangerous.
I would also pipe this in steel pipe and so would the vast majority of gas fitters and plumbers. But as you know, steel pipe takes more work and specialty tools where as flaring copper is fairly simple.
1/2" type L copper is hard tempered. It can not be flared and even if annealed to soften the pipe you would have to use acr fittings to make up the joint as 1/2" nominal L, is 5/8" actual outside diameter and 1/2" soft copper is 1/2".
Propane and natural gas are a bit different. Propane gas is thinner than air (and settles to low areas generally); whereas, natural gas ( methane) is lighter than air (and rises generally).
"Generally, approximately 26 million people use propane gas; whereas, more than 100 million people use natural gas. You are four times more likely to be involved in a fire or explosion using Propane (LP Gas) vs Natural Gas (Methane). You are 13 times more likely to be severely injured or burned with Propane (LP Gas) vs. Natural Gas (Methane). You are more than 100 times more likely to be killed or severely injured if there is a product failure using Propane (LP Gas) vs. Natural Gas (Methane)."
http://www.burnsurvivor.com/injury_examples_gasexplosions.html
I trust my ability to use and test steel pipe and fittings. I prefer not to use short length flex gas connectors for fixed equipment, let alone long runs of copper lines (as proposed above) and the use of flaring tools and other fittings.
This is awkward, but...
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