 Internet sites that sell TOTO seemed to have two prices for the TOTO MS854114, which was the one-piece model I wanted-- and the prices were quite a bit apart. We live in a metropolitan area of 400,000 but finding TOTO locally was not easy. A big box store and a plumbing show room could special order the TOTO, but both quoted the higher price, which was pushing $500. After much searching I found that the locals didn't seem to know that MS854114 and MS854114S are the same shape, size, and color toilet, except that the "S" version has TOTO's G-Max Toilet Flushing System, and the model without the "S", the cheaper model, has power gravity flushing. I later found out that the plumbing supply showroom has a special deal with Kohler, and that company discourage dealers from ordering products outside the Kohler line. The box store sells a lot of toilets between $70 and $200 and of course fills out their inventory for volume sales in that price range. I bought MS854114 at a plumbing shop on the coast, 130 miles from home. We've used this TOTO model for about three weeks, and I am still astonished at the flushing action-- a complete and clean flush every time, with amazingly little water use. Inside, the tank is simplicity itself. Its one-piece bowl and tank are easy to clean, and this model --the "Ultimate Toilet" as the sticker on it said-- has a seat that won't slam down. Get it started on its way, and it lowers itself very slowly and quietly. In all, MS854114 is a gem. I had a concern about installing a low water-use toilet on a drain system designed for five gallon flushes, but I don't think I'll have a problem. A shower drain is up-line from the toilet, and the shower is used daily. TOTO's MS854114 could easily take this geographical market by storm if the company did even a little promoting. By the way, although TOTO is a Japanese company, it's the world's largest plumbing manufacturer, and most of the TOTO USA toilets sold in here are made in Atlanta, Georgia and to American specifications. Gilbert Gia
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