Re: Eljer Aqua Saver or Crane Economizer?
Posted by John on August 15, 2002 at 12:04:18:
In response to Re: Eljer Aqua Saver or Crane Economizer?
: : I need to replace a toilet and have narrowed the field to either the Eljer Aqua Saver with the PF/2 system. Or the Crane Economizer with the Flushmate system. So far there has been a lot feedback at this forum indicating the Aqua Saver to need 2 flushes due to poor bowl design. I did not find anything of significance on the Crane Economizer.

: : Which unit is better? And why. They are both priced very well.

: : Thanks for the advice.

: I hope you RE-THINK the use of a power assisted flushing toilet! I replaced three of the old-standard toilets when we remodeled and have nothing but expensive problems with them. We have used Kholor and Eljer. The parts are either extremely difficult to find or they are discontinued--then we have had to replace the entire toilet. I am on-line trying to find parts to the Eljer and after 2hrs of searching and phone calls, no luck! I will be forced again to purchase an entirely new toilet. Stick with the standard flushing toilets!

I must disagree with the above, though obviously I can't "invalidate" anyone's personal experience. Perhaps J. Cleary purchased the "wrong" power flush toilets. We've been VERY happy with the Gerber Ultra-Flush I installed 6 years ago. I've replaced a $20 cartridge-like part of the Flushmate unit once, which I'm told is about average-- it was readily available at a local plumbing supply store and took me perhaps 5 minutes to unscrew the old one and put in the new. Compared to the frequent monkeying around I used to do with gravity toilet "float balls" and "flapper valves", it's been a joy that way. Plus, double-flushing is almost NEVER needed, and I've had to plunge it maybe 3 times in 6 years when one of my young kids tried to flush something that shouldn't be flushed. I recently installed a Crane Economizer with the Flushmate in our second bathroom, just because it was easy to find at Menards and the Gerber wasn't. It hasn't been in long enough for a meaningful evaluation, but so far we're very satisfied with it. Another important consideration, for both staining and smell, is that the "water spot" on a power flush toilet bowl is MUCH larger than with a modern 1.6 gallon gravity toilet. I understand that some newer-design gravity toilets are good flushers, but they are more expensive than most power-flush models and usually still wouldn't have as big a water spot.

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