Re: Briggs 4200 Vacuity Vs. American Standard Cadet Vs. Toto
Posted by Mike Bosela on August 31, 1999 at 16:39:10:
In response to Re: Briggs 4200 Vacuity Vs. American Standard Cadet Vs. Toto
: You can't know if there're no Toto suppliers in the RV capital of the country until you've asked Toto. So call them up. If you look at how the Briggs works, it would seem to be finely "balanced," such that the normal mineral accumulation could affect the vacuum system. I used a Briggs 1.6 gallon toilet at a hotel recently. It flushed okay, but it had a round bowl. Just awful. Always get an elongated bowl. Michael

I removed my old Vacuity toilet and replaced it with a Toto Ultramax.  The Ultramax works far better.  I have now replaced all of my toilets with Toto Ultramax toilets.  I hope that helps.  Liann

: : Hi Terry,

: : Thanks for all the help with your web-site. I'm searching for a replacement toilet, and of course am concerned over the 1.6gpf limitation. We just moved from a new home featuring the 1.6gpf toilets made by Church, and were extremely disappointed, of course. In replacing the existing toilet, which I believe was still a 3.0gpf unit, which required a plunger by it's side(I won't mention manufacturer- not fair to them- the previous owners purchased the cheapest toilet they could, thinking they were all the same), I've come across several that are getting my focus, due to availability- the american Standard Cadet, the Briggs 4200 Vacuity, and by reading your review, the Toto. Main drawback with the Toto is, I don't think anyone carries it in my area. (Elkhart, IN). So, I guess I'm really leaning towards the Briggs 4200 and AM Cadet. I've got an American Standard which has not plugged-up since we've lived here; it's a Siphon-Jet style, unfortunately I don't know the model #. It's relatively older, and I'm guessing it's at least a 3gpf model. Any further experience or thoughts with the Briggs Vacuity? I've been seeing some good responses over the net about it, as well, in Toto's favor, of it. The price of the Toto vs. Briggs might make Brigg's the winner, however. I also read a response about the Briggs Vacuity by someone stating that this appeared to be a "finely- balanced" system, referring to it as though it could "backfire", and not work well all of the time, depending on various conditions of use- any thoughts?

: : Mike Bosela


Toto makes a model called the Drake which I sell for $229.  I use it both in homes and in commercial applications.  I ran into one homeowner that called theirs "Old Bessie" because it would take anything you gave it.  Terry

Hi Terry. In trying to find a website for the Briggs co. I came across your site. I have a Briggs vacuity toilet which has failed. Again. The first one I had developed a leak(I think) in the inner plastic shell.Water filled the outer tank, so that's what I had to surmise anyway.This was well within the 2 year warranty,so I returned it and got a new tank. Stupid me. I should have just gotten a good old regular, $100 cheaper, style. But, the vacuity was touted as the best new idea to come along since toilets were developed, so I stuck with it. Now, my second one is doing the same thing.The bowl will not refill after flushing unless the'refill lever' is manually touched,and there is once again water in the outer tank.Of course, it is now 1 month past my warranty, so no help there. I cannot find the Briggs co. info anywhere.Have they gone out of business, or what? Is this a potentially health hazzard, with this water in the outer shell, or just an aggravation? Is this 'clean' water?I guess I'll live with it and just do the manual refill jog if its not unhealthy; I cannot afford to replace if I do not have to at this time. But I am angry, to say the least!I cannot even get a flashlight down the sidebetween the inner and outer shells to see what has happened.Do you know if this is an unhealthy situation? And do you know how I can find the Briggs company? If you have ANY info, I'm grateful. If not, thanks for letting me vent.No pun intended. Leslie Long


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