: From the info I have seen here and elsewhere Toto's are the best! With the UltraMax leading the list. However, I need a 14"rough in. The Toto specs I have seen show the Vespin and CarLyle adaptable to 14".
: Do they operate (flush) as well as the UltraMax and Ultimate? Do they have a 3" flush valve? Do they have a glazed trap way?
: If i need a 14" rough in and these Toto ( Vespin and Carlyle) are not up to par, then what? ( Our house is full of IT.....and we must be sure we get rid of IT easily, effectively and effeciently!)

Steve,
Performance will be the same, check the link below.
Terry

• The toilet that adjusts!