Witching for pipes Video, this is how you find underground pipes.

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  1. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    If you need to find pipes that are buried underground, you can try witching for them.
    All you need is a metal coat hanger.

    [video=youtube;UBXmqzBs-ng]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBXmqzBs-ng[/video]
  2. MACPLUMB 777

    MACPLUMB 777 TROJAN WORLDWIDE SALES RP

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    Thanks for this TERRY ! !

    I have worked with plumbers and seen them do this, so i know it works also !

    I do not have the touch but i once saw a guy locate a water main over 12' deep in Alaska

    with witching
  3. Doherty Plumbing

    Doherty Plumbing Journeyman & Gas Fitter

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    Great video Terry!
  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    IF it works, and I have seen many cases where it did not, it requires that you be a "believer". I was on one job where they were looking for a sewer line and dug everywhere the witcher said to. By the time they called me and I showed them where it was, the property looked like a Beirut war zone. (The witcher said "But, there WAS something there" at all the empty holes)Other times it was concrete floors when looking for a water line. I am not a "believer", so it does not work for me, or on my jobs, so I rely on technology to find my pipes. If you want to go "high tech" with your witching, I assume they still make the "ball bearing" shaft witching tool to eliminate the friction of your hand. (REAL high tech would be to have it gyroscope balanced so the shaft always stays vertical and could only rotate when it was over the pipe, but then I doubt that it would EVER find anything)
    Last edited: May 13, 2010
  5. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    hj, I showed my nephew how to witch for pipes this morning. He was holding the wires too loosely at first.
    When I got him to wrap his fingers around the wire more, the wires started getting lively.
    The wires seem to like the fingers curling around the wire, and then they move better.
  6. nhmaster3015

    nhmaster3015 Master Plumber

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    Damn and all that money I spent on the Sonde locator .......
  7. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    And don't spend money on a SeeSnake. A crystal ball will do the same thing without any added expenses, although it is difficult to make a DVD from it. My way would be to "witch" for the pipe, and then bring in the technology to prove it was there, before I started digging a big hole in the ground. ESPECIALLY 12 feet deep.
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  8. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    The water utilities use an "As Built" first, and then witch for exact location.
    Before they dig up a street, they want to know that the thing they are digging for is the thing they are looking for.
    It would be rather silly to dig up and find a discarded pipe in the ground.
  9. Cookie

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    Nice Video, I am going to try it on my neighbor's property, and dig the hole to make sure it works. :)
  10. asktom

    asktom Member

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    Could you dig that hole at my place?... I need to relocate my outhouse.
  11. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; It would be rather silly to dig up and find a discarded pipe in the ground

    Wasn't that piece of pipe in the video a "discarded pipe" and he still found it? DIg down 12' and all that is there is a 2' peice of copper tubing. But at least he could say, like the one I referred to, is that "There WAS something there". And if you notice he twists his hand's position as he passes over the "pipe" and then again when he is past the pipe and the wires point backwards. IF they were working properly, he would have kept his hands RIGID and let the wires rotate in his fists.
  12. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    hj,

    The video isn't faked. And it works for pretty much anyone I can give the wires to.
    You should see the shocked look on their faces.
    If you like, come for a visit and I will personally show you how to do it.
    My nephew Noel didn't think he could do it either, but when I showed him how to hold the wires tighter, then the wires started moving.

    hj, you have to at least try something before you can stick to that old idea of yours.

    So if you can't figure out what you are seeing, do the first part of the video, take a coat hanger, cut it and try it and then report back.
    It's not rocket science. Anyone can do it.
  13. Esquire

    Esquire Plumber

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    I've seen people witch for water out at cabins when they are putting in dug wells. What type of pipe can you find with 'witching' I always thought witching would find water not metals of any kind. Thanks for re-educating me on something I thought I already knew.
  14. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    I've found that the material doesn't matter, it just has to be round.

    It can be empty or full of water. That doesn't seem to matter either.
    When my father was still living, I put the coat hangers in his hands, it freaked him pretty bad when they started moving.
    He didn't mind paying others to do things like that, but he didn't expect that they would work in his hands too.

    He handed them right back and gave me a look like "Don't ever ask me to do that again!"
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