Well Cap Bolts

Discussion in 'Pumps and Tanks Well Forum & Blog' started by HWMonkey, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. HWMonkey

    HWMonkey New Member

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    My well is fully functional, and the few tests I have had over the years show it is in great shape. But, I want to add a hand pump as a backup. To do this, I really need to know the water level to see if a shallow pump will work. I suspect it will. When I purchased the house, someone checked (somewhere) at the county, and it was something like 15 or 20 feet. From the picture, you can probably tell that this uses a jet pump.

    I went to take the well cap off for inspection, and .. the bolts are really rusty. I am notorious for breaking bolts. I suspect these things just have to be turned once or twice (and not removed).

    Do you have any recommendations for loosening these things? If I use oil, will I risk well contamination? Is a propane torch enough, and I am going to risk damaging anything?

    A picture is worth 1,000 words. My well cap is about 3.5 feet below the surface, protected by a metal ring, and covered with a wooden "door" (more like a pallet).
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    Thanks for the suggestions.
  2. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    I think you should leave the well alone for now and consider drilling a new well with a casing that is above grade.
  3. valveman

    valveman Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah that casing should be extended above ground. Doesn't look very sanitary. Oil is not good and a torch will melt the gasket. You can probably pull it up without loosening the bolts, which don't have to be loosened much anyway. Going to need a new well seal to put back, or better yet a well cap above a pitless with extended casing.
  4. Texas Wellman

    Texas Wellman In the Trades

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    Valveman I've seen some really, really stuck seals before.

    While you've got the well guys out to fix this mess go ahead and have them install you a submersible pump. A 1/2 HP sub will pump more water than a 1-HP jet ever will.
  5. valveman

    valveman Moderator Staff Member

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    Your right about that! Just that on the left side of the picture it doesn't look like there is much meat left on the casing. That is why I said it doesn't look sanitary. Might just come right out. Plenty of room for a sub. Sub would make for an easier pitless adapter while extending that casing. Don't want to be polluting your own water. :)
  6. HWMonkey

    HWMonkey New Member

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    Just to clarify:

    The casing is above ground (the rocks are ground) but below grade. It sits in a 5' circumference pit, down 3.5' from grade. I guess it is a pump house of a sort.

    So, you guys are saying call a well drilling company to see if they can extend the casing and put a seal/cap on it?

    Thanks!!
  7. valveman

    valveman Moderator Staff Member

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    It is almost impossible to seal a "pit". I would not be happy until the casing is 12" to 18" above grade, and properley sealed with concrete.
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