vent through a wall

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  1. Esquire

    Esquire Plumber

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    I got asked a question today and I'm not certain of the answer.

    There is plumbing in a square metal building. There is a vent that needs to terminate outside. Can the vent be brought out the side of the building? There are no windows or doors near the termination point. There is no eve above where it would terminate either.

    Could you terminate out the wall and 90 up to have it vertical (going above the roof level is possible too)? if run off water from the roof is an issue is hooding the vent acceptable? For some reason the owner of the building thinks he is more likely to have trouble with a leak at the room termination than at the wall termination point.

    Just wondering anyone has input on this and more so wondering what the code would think about it.
     
  2. shacko

    shacko Master Plumber-Gas Fitter

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    Most areas do not allow plumbing on the outside wall of a building, but this could vary locally, you have to check with you local jurisdiction, sorry.
     
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  4. Esquire

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    The plumbing is all on interior walls it would only get to the outside wall where it is going to terminate.
     
  5. Terry

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    Normally you would extend through the roof.
     
  6. krow

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    It is allowable to go through a wall, but you need to exit at 45 degrees and extend to above the roof and any change of vertical direction must be 45 degrees. There should be no horizontal runs where there is a possibility of water accumulation.Minimum 3" diameter pipe
     

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  7. Doherty Plumbing

    Doherty Plumbing Journeyman & Gas Fitter

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    Krow nailed it. In Canada you are allowed to have a vent outside of the building as long as the vent is always kept nominally vertical. And he's right about the 3" as well. You need it to be 3" because of frost closure. So this could really cause you some issues because if you're piping downstream of the vent isn't 3" already it needs to be!
     
  8. hj

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    Frost closure would be a possibility with ANY extended outdoor pipe and the longer it is, regardless of the size, the more likely it is to occur, ESPECIALLY if the weather is such that there are few warm periods which would thaw any accumulation out of it. I doubt that Newfoundland has many warm Winter days.
     
  9. FloridaOrange

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    In Florida you can but it appears that's a rarity. No vented soffit or openings above and must be min. 10' above grade and you can exit 90* from the wall and use a wallcap.
     
  10. Doherty Plumbing

    Doherty Plumbing Journeyman & Gas Fitter

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    You right but the code is more referring to climates where you get REALLY cold. Where I live they never require you to increase to 3" for frost closure. But if you went 5 hours north they might....

    But the inspectors around here do like to see all 1.5" vents increased to 2" right before they terminate through the roof because of frost closure issues. How much does it help? Probably not much but they like to see it and they have the final say.
     
  11. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    When I was in Chicago, EVERY vent penetration had to be at least 4", but pipes 4" and larger had to have it increased by 1". Here in Phoenix, I have seen installations where ALL the drain lines are on the exterior of the building.
     
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