Using a Thermal Break for a basement heated floor - Recommendations from NuHeat

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  1. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Personally, I do not think I've heard any floor warming systems thermostats, and for someone who has not used DitraHeat and got some incorrect information from someone already on the product, I'd take the report of sound level of their thermostat as suspect as well.
  2. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Yeah Jim. I should really have thought the lady who emailed me her concern really had no idea what she was talking about.

    She should listen to you. Not me. Maybe she can't because her floor heat is on! LOL

    All thermostats make noise. You are telling me you have not heard them. They click....

    Some more than others I'm sure.

    But go ahead jim - Sell away... Do you need a Cheer? It's been awhile...


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    There you go Big Guy. Yeah Jim. Go DITRA
  3. DougB

    DougB Member

    These thermostats control the line voltage (to the heater wire) via a relay. It's a small click - I've heard it with my Honeywell's. Can't say about the other T-Stats.
  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    What is she comparing it to?

    A solid state relay doesn't need to click, but most use a 'real' one because they are cheaper. And, no, I don't make it a habit of sitting around listening and waiting for a floor warming thermostat to turn on and off - I've not lived in a place with line voltage thermostats. And, most people probably have not heard many different ones to compare. Most thermostats in homes are 24vac, and the relay contacts don't carry much of any current, so their size is small and the sound they make is often minimal. Line voltage ones need to carry a fair amount of current, so unless solid state, will be noisier than one controlling your a/c or heating system (unless you have line voltage there, not as common). So, if the comparison is between a standard HVAC thermostat and a line voltage floor warming one, nearly any floor warming thermostat will seem noisy. Without knowing the reference and context, yes, she could be making an incorrect judgment. Apples to apples.
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  5. DougB

    DougB Member

    A solid state realy that will take 115v 15 amps, is probably a lot bigger (like maybe a heatsink) than a magnetic relay.

    I think the people who have the complaint are using them for in-floor heat in their bedrooms or the master bath entrance is through the bedroom.
  6. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    I agree, when you are sleeping, or trying to, little noises seem to be amplified to annoyance. But, after awhile, people tune them out as normal, like people that can sleep through a train going by, or their grandfather clock chiming.
  7. eurob

    eurob master tile and stone installer

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    A little birdie told me that the layout lines on the cable are not visible .

    I wouldn't want to remove a broken tile on that system . Do you think the megger will help you change it ?
  8. RedShoecounterbalance

    RedShoecounterbalance Member

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    Meanwhile back at the ranch( 1 of a few), Vegas is trying his best to install a lippage free tile floor and soon he will share his pics...
  9. Vegas_sparky

    Vegas_sparky Eat kitty

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    The train wreck continues on, RSCB. The little mosaics at the threshold were a real Whipple.

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  10. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    That is only one course of mosaic tile. Suck it up sister.

    This was a real pain.


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    before grout prep

    Look down the edge of the sill. See the light highlighting the green glow of the tile. The sun comes in and the edge glows almost like it's back lit. Should look pretty slick when the LED's are on at night as well.

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    after grout

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  11. Vegas_sparky

    Vegas_sparky Eat kitty

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    Those green tiles are all crooked. What are you talking about?
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