Use of registered names like ROMEX® on this forum, this is a poll

Discussion in 'Electrical Forum discussion & Blog' started by Terry, Dec 7, 2011.

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How should we treat the brand ROMEX®

  1. Star out and censor the word, problem solved!

    13 vote(s)
    52.0%
  2. Have moderators add the ® sign

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  3. Ignore the entire issue. Do other manufacturers do this?

    9 vote(s)
    36.0%
  4. Tell posters how to add the ® o they can use it with Romex®, Disposal®, Fernco® and the other tr

    2 vote(s)
    8.0%
  1. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    Beverly Cofield sent me this email about users of this forum and the use of the brand name ROMEX®
    Apparently, you people posting are not adding the trademark behind the brand name.

    So the question I have for you is this. To keep them happy, should I just star out the brand name to keep it from being misued?
    That would be very easy for me to do, and then I wouldn't have to babysit their business here. We could just pretend the brand name didn't exist here.
    What do you think, Star out the brand name, or have the moderator babysit their brand name. It's not like anyone is offering to pay us for the babysitting.

  2. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades Master of one

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    There are a lot of websites that Sell The Romex® Products and they don't use the ® on their website.

    I say Ban the name and do not support that name brand.

    Also Buy different brands when at all Possible.

    Terry Love Plumbing® has better thing to do rather than being a Romex® babysitter.

    You should ban Southwire Company® also, So that nobody steals than name.

    Sounds like Beverly Cofield® is getting board at her job and she has a "Need to see Romex®" complex to me.


    Their website is one of the few using it, That I see.


    DonL®
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  3. ballvalve

    ballvalve General Engineering Contractor

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    I say screw Bev, and they should be thrilled to get free advertising.

    Romeex-bandaaids-kleeenex have all become generics now.

    She has plenty of time on her hands to write here, because romolex sales are down about 80% from our depression. Most wire is getting stolen from foreclosed half finished houses, so you can buy it on theftbayy now.
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  4. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    You can star out the name using the banned words controls, and then we can just spell it wrong, while everyone will still know what we are talking about. There is enough baby-sitting to be done already.
  5. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades Master of one

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    I have bought and recommend that brand for many years.

    I will never do it again.

    Can you say, I shot myself in the foot ???

    I would be very proud to have my trademarks allowed on Terry's Forums®, Free of charge.

    Terry has it together when it come to Searching the net. Great Job by all.

    Removing the RoTex® brand would give that Company a lot less hits.
    Then Beverly® could find something better to do.

    They maybe searching out sites with Logos® on them.

    I am waiting to find out her background and if she is for sure enough real.


    DonL®
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  6. jwelectric

    jwelectric Electrical Contractor/Instructor

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    how do you make the circle R?
  7. Chad Schloss

    Chad Schloss Member

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    copy and paste, lol (if i told you the correctway® then it would be a trademark issue with someone, lol
  8. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    Buy a Ranch first:cool:

    Then, while holding down the "Alt" key, type 0174 with the numlock key on and using the numeric keypad. (not the numbers above the letters)
    © = alt 0169

    ® = Alt 0174
  9. drick

    drick In the Trades

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    Yeah, free advertising is a horrible thing. Star it out. %#$ them!

    -rick
  10. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    My isn't Beverly touchy today. Very simple. No more whatchacallit!. Since they probably sell it at blue and orange, that would be consistent with our preference not to shop at those places.

    We will need speedey and jw to give us some alternate brandnames ® to purchase. Sayonara Beverly.

    What happens when we mention Price Pfister, or Moen, or whatever??? Will Terry be getting more nasty lawyer letters???
    And I think that never-to-be-mentioned wire company is quite cheeky to harrass Terry with a letter from a ^#$&* clerk! What do you have to do to get a letter from a Lawyer-bless-his-heart!
  11. Speedy Petey

    Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Contractor

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    Nathan got this over at ET.com as well.
    I personally think Romex is shooting themselves in the foot with this and being absolutely petty. They are throwing away free advertising and alienating their core customer base at the same time.
    What a bunch of punk lawyers they must have.
    I hope they read ALL the negative comments about this. There are a LOT of them!
  12. Speedy Petey

    Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Contractor

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    Either that or you can officially tell all of us that we HAVE to make this "change". Then we cal all ignore it. :cool:

    How the hell do they expect you to force everyone to make this "change"??? Other than blocking their name.
  13. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; Sounds like Beverly Cofield® is getting board at her job and she has a "Need to see Romex®" complex to me.


    Not really, she is doing what she is paid to do. The legal people have the same problem with Disposal®, Scotch Tape ®, Fernco ®, Transite ® when it was a major product, Fridgidaire®, etc. IF they do NOT do their job the word/term enters the public domain and they LOSE their copyright protection for it.
  14. Speedy Petey

    Speedy Petey Licensed Electrical Contractor

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    So what is the threat of ignoring them?

    Places like this are the same as any other hang out. When hanging out at the supply house do you say "Give me two rolls of romex, trademark"??? NO, you don't.

    This is all just a bunch of legal BULL SH*T. It is justification for *^%#@ lawyers to make themselves feel worthwhile.

    BandAid is the biggest one of these things and they still have their copyright, don't they.
  15. Jim Port

    Jim Port Electrical Contractor

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    This same letter was also sent to a home inspector forum.
  16. mtcummins

    mtcummins In the Trades

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    having your brand name become the standard way to refer to things is the best free advertising that money can't buy. there's no way that omexRa (yeah, thats right... rockin the pig-latin) is in any danger of losing their trademark.

    screw them. can you set an autocorrect on the forum that just takes "xemoR" out and replaces it with another brand name? with no trademark? until they complain and lose their free advertising too...
  17. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    Patent, trademark, and copyright law is an enourmously complex field. Those lawyers get the BIG $$$$$ so I guess they have the last laugh on this. I do think it is true that no matter how stupid we think it is, it is necessary for a company to protect their tradename. I don't think kleenex ( occupy my ® !) is necessarily happy about the general use of that name by folks who may actually be requesting or purchasing a competitor product. I can remember that places like fast food restraurants that sold PEPSI would correct you if you asked for a "coke". They would say.."is Pepsi OK??". I think someone named Beverly from coke was breathing down their throat. It seems they all just sell coke now, so that doesn't come up!!!!
  18. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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  19. kreemoweet

    kreemoweet New Member

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    Sorry, Bev, but you are just a few decades too late! The term "romex" has been in the public domain as a synonym
    for nonmetallic sheathed cable for at least that long.
  20. Chad Schloss

    Chad Schloss Member

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