Uh...Ian.......Whats up with This ???

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  1. Scuba_Dave

    Scuba_Dave Extreme DIY Homeowner

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    Huh ? :confused:

    http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/...nding-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html
  2. Peanut9199

    Peanut9199 Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale

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    I guess it's the old adage "Ignorance of the law is no excuse".
  3. Cass

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    This sums it up very well.....

    The life of the law has not been logic, but experience. This was the great jurist Oliver Wendell Holmes's famous description of how the law operates in our lives. It is perhaps the single most telling observation in all of legal history. To learn how the law works, look not to the law's presumed foundations in logic but rather to our real-world experience of the law. What Holmes might have added, however, is that experience can be brutal.
    How often is it that a person finds unsatisfactory the application of a particular law to his/her situation or individual predicament? This experience is quite common and usually involves a law that one would have expected to help rather than hinder or even hurt one's ultimate cause. In these instances, people are likely to become cynical, even despairing of the law in general, inclined to disbelieve claims of the law's intrinsic merit.
    This skepticism of the law is nothing new. In the sixteenth century, the essayist Michel de Montaigne complained bitterly that "laws maintain their credit, not because they are just, but because they are laws. This is the mystical basis of their authority; they have no other. They are often made by fools, and more often by men who, out of hatred for equality, are lacking in equity, but always by men: vain and unstable creators. There is nothing so grossly and widely, nor so ordinarily faulty as the laws." Montaigne backed up his argument by going even farther back in time to quote Epicurus, a philosopher of the fourth century, B.C.: "As we once suffered from crimes, so now we are suffering from laws."
  4. FloridaOrange

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    Sounds almost like the old pot laws. It wasn't illegal to have pot if you had a gov't issued stamp for it. To get the stamp you had to take the pot to the office to get the stamp....therefor you had it in your possession prior to having the stamp and were subsequently arrested for it.
  5. Ian Gills

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    We're very strict with guns.

    Only sissies have them.

    Real men use their fists, a stick or a short knife.

    That's why when our police respond, they do not wear riot helmets or have shields.

    Here, the Police shoot first and ask questions later.

    It's cultural and has a lot to do with what your dad taught you.

    "It's not a fair fight if you shoot the burglar son, use your fists."

    In England a policeman will not hit you, unless you hit him. Then he will kick your arse and probably only use his fists.

    We just love a fight. Guns take away that pleasure.

    That's probably why we lost America. We came looking for a friendly punch up and your daddies decided to use the guns in the shed. Oh, and the French.
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  6. Cookie

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    Does that include these?
    ;)
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  7. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    No, not allowed.

    Too impersonal.
  8. Peanut9199

    Peanut9199 Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale

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    My Dad used to be in the Merchant Marines and the Officers used to sew razor blades in the rim of thier hats (in case they got in a fight on shore leave).
    One on top and one on bottom and what that would do is if you were cut, because the cuts were so close together you wouldn't be able to get them stitched up properly and would always have a nasty scar.
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  9. Runs with bison

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    Seems pretty nuts to me. See, the U.S. isn't the only country with daft jurors, overzealous prosecutors and law enforcement.

    So in England, if you want to ruin some enemy's life, just obtain a gun, toss it in their car/luggage/whatever and make sure they are found with it in their possession. According to the judge, jurors, and law enforcement the person is screwed, even if a weapon fell out of the sky apparently.
  10. Peanut9199

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    No what the police say is

    so as long as you don't touch it and that means pick it up and bring it to a police station it's ok.
  11. Cass

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    There is only one rule in a fight...that is to win...

    I would rarher be a live sissy with a gun than a dead man....
  12. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    One of two things will happen with the case because we are smarter than Americans and more pragmatic.

    Either:

    a) they will discover it was really his gun

    b) they will concede that this was a responsible act but remind the public of the proper procedure.

    Notice how they arrested him without shooting him. Good eh? You might want to take a leaf out of that book, just in case the guy your Police did shoot didn't actually do it.

    May I also remind you that a ploy that a young boy was flying away on a weather balloon would just not work in England. Simple maths. Balloon too small, therefore no need to call the Police.

    Not so in America.

    It's the same with the Healthcare Bill. Public health provision will save you money and improve health outcomes.

    But there's just no helping some of you. I blame the mainstream conservative media, which obviously cannot count or perhaps even read.

    Where's the honor in that? Let me speak to your dad about your upbringing.

    I like the Canadian approach myself. That being guns are to hunt and fists are to fight with.
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  13. Cookie

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    I have a hot purse. :)
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    Got that right. I would rather you be a sissy too. ;) LOL I'll loan you my purse.
  15. Cass

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    It will never happen...ever...you really don't understand politics, power and control...

    If I am the only game in town I control it in every way...

    One thing man never learns from history....is that man never learns from history...
  16. Cass

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    I believe this government is more treasonous than the one we originally Revolted against...
  17. Runs with bison

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    You must have slept through the previous 8 years.
  18. Cass

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    No...I was wide awake...but what they (obama) are trying to do will froe ever change the face of our country like no other administration has done since we became a Country if it passes...So I stand by what I said...the previous 8 years (bush) did not do that...but it has blame also in that it set the stage for what is happening...
  19. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    I told you it was a bad idea to kick us out.

    But you wouldn't listen.

    We would happily come back if some arrangement could be made regarding the back taxes...
  20. Scuba_Dave

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    Yeah...um....about $$ being owed

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