Turn valve will not completely shut off water

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  1. rosem637

    rosem637 Member

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    Have an outdoor spigot that for the past 2 years I have not been able to shut the water off to completely. The spigot itself shuts the water off completely but the shutoff inside the house will not. No matter how hard I crank on the shut off, the water from the spigot will still not shut completely off. ANy ideas? Is it time to replace the shut off?
    My shut off is a stop and waste valve almost like the one below.

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  2. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    Try replacing the washer in it and inspect the seat while you have it apart.
  3. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    I don't mess around with repairing old valves anymore. There are very few applications where installing a good quality 1/4 turn ball valve is not the right thing to do.
  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    This would be one of them unless the 1/4 turn valve has a "drain port", which few do. All this one needs is a new rubber washer.
  5. Hammerlane

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    If your shutoff is a stop valve the seat washer may be cracked/damaged. Happened to me. Could not get it to shutoff. Came to find out is was a damaged seat washer. I ended up cutting it out and soldering in a ball valve. Then I took the old apart to disect.

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  6. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Most people would take it apart FIRST, in which case they would have seen the bad washer and replaced it. Job done, and they still had the "cap" to drain the water out so the faucet did not freeze and break.
  7. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    For most DIY'ers it would be easier to replace a washer than to sweat in a new valve.
  8. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    I'm done replacing washers. I think all the replacement washers are coming from overseas, as I can't find any decent ones anymore.

    HJ, I don't have any problems getting 1/4 turn ball valves with drain ports.
  9. Hammerlane

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    Thats possible.


    You know 1/2 ball valves are made with a drain port. Not really too hard to find.
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