Trouble removing bathroom fixture...

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  1. pdrmant

    pdrmant New Member

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    I can't seem to find a tool or method that works for untwisting this strange nut.
    It's the one at the right of the pic. One for each handle. Is there some type of tool built for this?

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    Thanks.
  2. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    You do NOT take this type of faucet out/ or apart from the underside. Remove the handle and trim, and there will be a nut holding it in. Take that off and the valve drops DOWN. A photo of the top would help us explain
  3. pdrmant

    pdrmant New Member

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    Aha... Here you are...
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  4. Plumber1979

    Plumber1979 Certified Plumber

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    use a basin wrench from underneath
  5. pdrmant

    pdrmant New Member

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    Tried this, but my basin wrench wouldn't get wide enough to grip the "nodes".
    I'm having a little success removing them from the top, as jimbo advised, but the whole section spins.
    As you can see, the faucets are corroded and quite old. I'm having a really hard time getting any twist or progress.
    I've been using vice grips on the geared protrusion shown to hold the unit in place while I use a crescent wrench, hair dryer, wd40 (all I've got at home), and some hammering. Painfully slow.

    Any suggestions for the bolt?

    Thanks.
  6. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Regardless of whether you can loosen the nut on the bottom or not, the top one MUST be removed to take the faucet off the sink.
  7. mfellows

    mfellows New Member

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    Have you tried vinegar? If you're lucky, it will dissolve most of that corrosion.
  8. pdrmant

    pdrmant New Member

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    OK, I'll try the vinegar today and see. Anyone give thumbs up on something like Liquid Wrench or some similar product?
  9. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    It looks like it is well beyond the "Liquid Wrench" phase. More like a Dremel Tool or hacksaw.
  10. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    By the way, that nut is an electrical lock nut, which should be regular pipe thread. A pair of pliers should be able to grab it, but its difficult to figure out from here if there is enough room to fit in that area. You will have to be careful not to damage the basin, but you MAY be able to jam something like a large screwdriver in there to keep the nut from turning and try turning the valve body again, but as Jimb said, it may not be removable from the top up, as the valve body casting and it port may not fit through the hole. A Fein oscillating saw or cheap knockoff will be able to cut that inlet port off and allow it to fit through the hole Safety Googles are a must here.

    Good luck
  11. Tom Sawyer

    Tom Sawyer In the Trades

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    Sawzall......
  12. pdrmant

    pdrmant New Member

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    Alright. Gonna try the screwdriver in the fitting method and see if she budges. Got a Dremel, too just in case. Thanks for the responses.
  13. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    That is NOT an electrical locknut, nor is it a "pipe thread". It is a "proprietary" locknut designed by the faucet manufacturer for THEIR faucet.
  14. pdrmant

    pdrmant New Member

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    If I were to go at this thing with a dremel, would I first remove (smash) the fitting that's so corroded to get to where I'm beneath the strangely shaped nut at the top. Then cut beneath the nut?
  15. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You will have to remove the top fitting and let the stems drop down. You may be able to use a drill bit to "cut" through the nut. Just a series of holes until you have a cut that can be pried off.

    You may want to score it with a new hack saw blade a few times.
  16. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Cut through the "edges" of the top nut on two sides so it "falls" off the stem, then it will drop through the opening.
  17. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. :eek:

    Still, it looks like some cutting will be involved. On the other hand, if this sink basin is not very expensive, it may just be better to start with a new sink and new faucet. it's easy for me to spend your money, lol
  18. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; it may just be better to start with a new sink and new faucet

    If you don't want to bother with dumping the ashtray, you can trade in your car for a new one, also.
  19. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    I don't smoke, but when the car is really dirty, I buy a new one:p Obama says I am entitled to do that.
  20. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; when the car is really dirty, I buy a new one

    Yes, don't you just hate going to the car wash and waiting in line?
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