Toto Toilet Improperly Installed?

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The toilet in the basement bathroom of the house we bought was leaking from the flapper. I thought it just needed a new flapper, but it seems as if the flapper doesn't sit flat. When I looked more closely, it seems to me as if the flush valve (if that's the right term) is installed improperly. The opening in the pipe is not horizontal but is angled from the back to the front. Can this be right? If not, I'm guessing I'll need a new flush valve because this one is most likely cross threaded. From those of you who have seen lots of Toto installations, could this be OK and I just need a flapper? I've attached a photo. 2014-03-02 17.20.53.jpg

I've looked more closely and it is installed properly; it's intended to be angled like that. it says "CertainFlush" on it. I guess it just needs a new flapper, and maybe this is the wrong flapper.
 
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You can tell (or at least I can) from looking at the flapper that it is worn out...the outer rim on a new one is nice and straight. Over time, with all of the weight of the water, it starts to collapse and bend down. WHen that happens, it's time to replace it as it will start leaking soon.
 

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Thanks. Do the "universal" flappers work? The Toto one seems to be out of stock at Toto. I think I can find it somewhere, but it's about $23. The Korky universal ones are a fraction of that and easy to find.
 

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Thanks. Do the "universal" flappers work? The Toto one seems to be out of stock at Toto. I think I can find it somewhere, but it's about $23. The Korky universal ones are a fraction of that and easy to find.

It would help if you would give us whatever model information is in the tank. I (at least) don't want to recommend a 3" flapper if that's a two-inch flush valve (which Toto rarely makes anymore).

Assuming it's 3", then easiest thing to do is get the Korky 3" Large Adjustable Flapper, Model 3060 (and some irrelevant letters).
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Korky-3-in-Adjustable-Toilet-Tank-Flapper-3060CM/202183799
http://www.lowes.com/pd_166789-868-...t=korky&pl=1&currentURL=?Ntt=korky&facetInfo=
And other fine retailers. About $12.

If you ever needed to replace that flush valve (which looks fine for now), Korky makes a 3" flush valve that will slide right in your Toto (assuming it's a two-piece, which seems likely considering that it has a set of tank-to-bowl bolts in the tank) and has a twist-to-adjust overflow riser that is extra-wide and more effective if the fill valve ever runs away. Model 5030BP. They sent me one as a sample, and it's well-made from nice heavy plastic and as easy to install as their 2" flush valve.

Korky makes flappers and fill valves for Toto that are installed in Toto's US and Mexico factories. So a Korky flapper is often the Toto flapper. If you give me the model number in the tank, I can tell you whether the "Fits Toto" Korky non-adjustable flapper is another alternative for your toilet. It is for some and isn't for others. It's about a buck cheaper and you don't have to adjust it, although the adjustment process on the 3060 is pretty simple.

As Terry says, a great thing about Toto is that you can carry one fill valve (the 528MP [or 528PRO for Terry]) and one flapper (the 3060) on the truck and fix almost all of their toilets (because both items are adjustable).

Let us know how it turns out.
 
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I'm pretty sure it's a Dalton with a 2" valve. From what I've been able to figure out, I think it's this one:
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and I believe that means I need a THU262 flapper. But the only thing I'm sure of is that it is a Toto toilet, the opening is 2", and it is angled like the one in the attached picture.
 

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It would help if you would give us whatever model information is in the tank. I (at least) don't want to recommend a 3" flapper if that's a two-inch flush valve (which Toto rarely makes anymore).

Assuming it's 3", then easiest thing to do is get the Korky 3" Large Adjustable Flapper, Model 3060 (and some irrelevant letters).
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Korky-3-in-Adjustable-Toilet-Tank-Flapper-3060CM/202183799
http://www.lowes.com/pd_166789-868-...14&Ntt=korky&pl=1¤tURL=?Ntt=korky&facetInfo=
And other fine retailers. About $12.

If you ever needed to replace that flush valve (which looks fine for now), Korky makes a 3" flush valve that will slide right in your Toto (assuming it's a two-piece, which seems likely considering that it has a set of tank-to-bowl bolts in the tank) and has a twist-to-adjust overflow riser that is extra-wide and more effective if the fill valve ever runs away. Model 5030BP. They sent me one as a sample, and it's well-made from nice heavy plastic and as easy to install as their 2" flush valve.

Korky makes flappers and fill valves for Toto that are installed in Toto's US and Mexico factories. So a Korky flapper is often the Toto flapper. If you give me the model number in the tank, I can tell you whether the "Fits Toto" Korky non-adjustable flapper is another alternative for your toilet. It is for some and isn't for others. It's about a buck cheaper and you don't have to adjust it, although the adjustment process on the 3060 is pretty simple.

As Terry says, a great thing about Toto is that you can carry one fill valve (the 528MP [or 528PRO for Terry]) and one flapper (the 3060) on the truck and fix almost all of their toilets (because both items are adjustable).

Let us know how it turns out.

The number in the tank is 389 it that helps. I already posted the rest of the information I have (although a lot of it other than the fact that it is 2" is speculation).
 

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The number in the tank is 389 it that helps. I already posted the rest of the information I have (although a lot of it other than the fact that it is 2" is speculation).

If it's a 2-inch flush valve, just get a Korky 2" flapper. If you get the red one with Chlorazone, it probably lasts longer than the black one. I'm thinking this one should work fine:

http://korky.com/Flapper2001BP.html

You can get an adjustable one: http://korky.com/Flapper100BP.html But it probably isn't necessary. http://www.lowes.com/pd_579153-868-...t=korky&pl=1&currentURL=?Ntt=korky&facetInfo=

While you're at it, I would toss that antiquated ballcock and replace it with a Korky 528MP MaxPerformance fill valve, which has an adjustable refill, so you can the water level in the bowl just right without underfilling the bowl (hurts performance) or overfilling the bowl (extra water just runs down the drain). http://www.lowes.com/pd_336988-868-528MPK_0__?Ntt=528mpk&UserSearch=528mpk&productId=3284948&rpp=32

The one with the white cap rather than the silver cap probably won't give you the proper refill. Takes less than 5 minutes to install this valve, and it works great. A version of it is what Toto now uses as its universal replacement fill valve.
 
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