Toto Promenade flange distance

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  1. dsimonl

    dsimonl New Member

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    We have a Toto Drake II in our main bathroom and absolutely love it. My guest bath needs a new toilet. I'd buy another Drake II, but I only have 47" from wall to wall.

    I believe the Promenade is the shortest comfort height toilet in the Toto lineup. Is it like the Drake where I can mount the flange center at 11" instead of 12" to save an additional inch?
  2. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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  3. wjcandee

    wjcandee Wise One

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    For the round one, which I assume the poster knows, but just wanted to make sure. The elongated Promenade is essentially the same distance front to back as your Drake II (it's 1/4" shorter).

    For what it's worth, you sit in the same position on the round bowl and the elongated bowl. You just have a little more china in front of your privates. So how it "feels" when you're using it in terms of sitting in a confined space will be exactly the same as your Drake II. If the concern is that it will impinge on a door or a wheelchair or something, fine. Otherwise, I would just go with the Drake II that you love, or the elongated Promenade if you like the look of the toilet. I had the same concern about using an elongated Original Drake in a confined space. Bought one round for there and an elongated for elsewhere. The reality is that if I had to do it over again, I would just get two elongated ones, knowing what I now know. I don't dislike the Round Drake -- far from it -- but I just realize that I was overly-concerned. Again, this is just my 2 cents, but knowing that you love your Drake II, I thought I would pass them along.
  4. dsimonl

    dsimonl New Member

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    Thanks for the responses. Yes, the round one :D

    The little 4' bath is laid out Sink, toilet, shower. Guests need to squeeze past the toilet to get to the shower. On the Drake ii, that space would be 14.5". If i minimize the flange distance to the wall, the Promenade round would give 17.5"

    If I set the flange center at 11.5", in theory, if everything is straight, I should still have .25" behind the toilet. Is that enough for the tank lid?
  5. dsimonl

    dsimonl New Member

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    I changed my mind.....
    After mulling it over all weekend I'm going to modify the walls (non load-bearing) and turn one of the studs sideways... In essence make a 2" alcove in front and back of the toilet so I can fit a Drake II. I don't want to compromise!
  6. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Different places have different requirements on minimum passage distance...where I live, you'd need 24" in front of the toilet to an obstruction (and 15" either side). This can make it difficult to make a small bathroom compliant. It was done in older homes, but the codes weren't as strict. Similar issue to stairways and the rise/run...the house where I grew up would never be allowed today, as the stairs are no longer code compliant.
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