Toto Drake toilet product review

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by Reader Review, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    You can get a Korky Quietfill valve from Lowes for about $8.47 Takes about 10-minutes to replace. While youare at it, replace the supply hose, too.

    Or the $2.47 assembly cap will fix it too.
    http://www.terrylove.com/korky/
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  2. rrowan

    rrowan New Member

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    New TOTO owner

    Hi Terry,

    I just wanted to say Thanks for a wonderful website with great info.

    I have been strugling for 2 months now with a A/S Cadet 3 toilet. Last tuesday it stop working and after many attempts to fix it it just would not work. We called a plumber in to check the main drain and he said it was just fine. Wednesday we talked about replacing the Cadet and what to get? After google searching we came across your site.

    Thursday morning we returned the Cadet to Lowes and went to a local plumbing supply and purcased the TOTO Drake with the SanaGloss and self closing lid (Wife picked out the gloss and lid options). Anyway no problems for almost a week now which is great for a house (with 3 teenage boys) that was built in the 1950's with no basement.

    Thanks again

    Rick
  3. gbuskirk

    gbuskirk New Member

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    The Toto Drake freed me. My fourteen-year old son is mildly autistic, and happens to be able to plug any ordinary toilet. After an overflow incident many years ago, he would not flush the toilet again. I got sick of dealing with his bizness, so reading this forum, I got the idea to replace the toilet with one that could "flush a penguin", and couldn't overflow on an ordinary flush. The Toto Drake. I ordered one online, and it arrived a couple of weeks later. I installed it myself according to the instructions on this website. I had to deal with a broken ABS plastic flange, which I repaired with a ring from Home Depot), but the installation otherwise went smoothly.
    I demonstrated the flush action to my son, and he agreed to try taking care of his own stuff. I haven't had to do it since the Toto went in.
    In time, two more toilets in the house will be replace with Toto Drakes (Sana-Gloss ADA).
    Thanks for the site Terry.
  4. daveng

    daveng New Member

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    toto drake - good at flushing, chain always coming loose

    I bought 2 drakes for my home and they certainly are good at flushing, they never once got clogged where my other toilets, gerbers, were always getting clogged. I only issue I've had with them is the link that connects the chain to the flap was always coming off, so I would have to open up the tank and re-attach. This happened to both the toilets, so I'd have to say that this is a flaw in the manufacturing of the toilet.

    Korky 3" Replacement flappers for the Drake are carried at Lowes for $9.99
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  5. Mikey

    Mikey Aspiring Old Fart, EE, computer & networking geek

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    Another Drake, and a question

    I just replaced an 11-year-old American Standard Pressure-assisted Cadet with our 2nd Toto Drake. Main reason was that we were getting used to the ADA height on our first Drake, and plopping down on the old standard-height Cadet wasn't fun any more. A few days later we're a very satisfied 2-Drake family. Sold the old Cadet for $10 at a local used building supplies exchange.

    The question: as I inspected things prior to installation, I noted that at the trapway exit, there's a deep ridge in the interior of the trapway circumference, about 1/4" above the exit. I'm wondering why this wouldn't be a potential point for a snag and clog to develop? I don't remember seeing this in the first Drake, but then again I didn't look it over very carefully. Seems to me I'd want this to be a smooth surface to encourage the waste on its way.
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  6. dtinEnid

    dtinEnid New Member

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    Bowl cleaning?

    I have been using the Drake Elongated ADA for several months. Yes, it flushes like a champ, is difficult to plug (happened once...), and refills quickly.:) Solid waste DOES leave its mark, though. Another flush doesn't wash it away and it usually needs brushed.:(

    Do any of the other models clean better while keeping the famous flush?

    PS The flush is noisy but may be due to a 3" drain under the toilet that isn't vented well. :confused:
  7. Mikey

    Mikey Aspiring Old Fart, EE, computer & networking geek

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    I've had one clog requiring mechanical assistance to clear, and one "stall" of a hot-dog (with bun) - sized poop, which cleared on its own, in the late part of the flush. Still, it beats the record of any other low-flow toilet I've ever had (except for the PA models). Flush is noisy, but only the final "glurp" as the trap clears. No problems with smears or marking. One frustration is the shape of the bowl makes it look dirty, even though it's clean, especially around the waterline. I think it's a light-and-shadow thing.
  8. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    We have plenty of TOTO Aquia toilets for the Seattle area now.
    We just picked up 40 of them.
    11/6/2007
  9. Notahandyman

    Notahandyman New Member

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    Hi Terry,

    I'm hoping I can get some immediate help here & have forgotten how to post a new question in the forum!

    I'm ready for the Toto Drake toilet...I've been waiting on the contractor doing our bathroom remodel & there's seemingly a hitch.

    The recommended distance from the floor to the water supply line on the toilet is 8 inches. We only have 4''. I just read at another website of a fellow that had this problem & the plumber didn't pay any attention & he ended up having to tear the wall out & re-do everything.

    I don't want a make-do situation with the plumber, I want it done properly, but I really don't want to have to tear the wall out either!

    Can you offer me any advice on this?

    Thanks,
    Notahandyman
  10. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    With the Toto Drake and the Ultramax, the water supply can be 3" to the left of center.

    The Vespin and Carlyle need 7" to the left of center for the water supply

    The Gunivere and the Soiree can be 5-1/2" to the left of center.
  11. skhndrsn

    skhndrsn New Member

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    ADA issues

    We needed an ADA (comfort height) toilet on short notice for a family member when a flare in her rheumatoid arthritis made the standard height impossible to use. I called a local plumbing company and let them talk me into the Kohler Cimarron they had in stock to install that day. BIG MISTAKE! I knew from reading the forums that the Cimarron had bowl wash quirks, but this was horrible, unless I was willing to clean after every use (and I was SO not). And I could smell it. Immediately. Ugh. Called them back and found out they could have gotten me the Toto Drake I asked for in 24 hours, which is what they did after I insisted. What an improvement! Flushes everything, a snap to install, and no odd smells. As to cleaning, it needs no more than our old water hogs needed. For anyone with handicapped or otherwise weakened family members, both of these new low-flow toilets were too stiff for our family member to flush. We installed a foot pedal ($30. Foot Flush), which worked great but eventually caused knee problems on the flushing leg. We then went to a wireless automatic flusher (Auto-Flush for tank toilets $144.) It's just super. Anyone with kids or with toilet-trained cats will like this option too. Very easy install and wonderful hands-free flushing on our Toto Drake. We're planning to install Totos in the rest of the house. Couldn't be more pleased.
  12. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    All toilets have rim wash.
    If a bowl has the siphon jet, then most of the water for the flush goes through the low part of the bowl, but there are always holes punched around the rim for bowl rinse.

    Some comments about bowl wash, are mainly if you are comparing a post 1992 toilet to a pre 1992 toilet.
    It has been 16 years since you could buy a 3.5 bowl, and even longer than that for the 5.0 bowls.
    When someone replaces an old bowl made before 1992 with a new bowl, then yes, they notice more bowl surface exposed, and less water to rinse.
    That is true for all brands.
    Of the new toilets reviewed, the Toto Drake flushes well, and has a 360 around the bowl rinse.
    It is the top seller I have.

    Drake Pepper Test

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  13. jim nelson

    jim nelson New Member

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    This is not a reply but a question-I am not a plumber-and until yesterday I had never heard of "toto drake". It seems however in the little research I've done since then, to be the best toilet made. Do you recommend one over the other. We have a 1200 square foot house-3 bedroom-2 bath and most days-it's just me & my wife. Recently had toilet checked by a plumbing company who said everything is working fine-my toilet just "sucks". My word there not theirs. It is working properly but that is not good! He recommended the "toto drake and gave me an installed price of $587 out the door. Do you agree with his recommendation and does the price seem fair? Thanks for any advice you have the time to give-jim
  14. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    The Drake is one of the best that I sell.
    Pricing depends somewhat on area.
    If you were in the Seattle area, my pricing would look like this.
    I also have will-call in Anchorage AK, Wasilla AK,
    http://terrylove.biz/
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  15. suceress

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    Questions about the rough-in and other things

    Hi,
    I have a few questions about this toilet. I am thinking of getting two to replace the 30-year-old ones in a couple of my bathrooms. I know that this toilet has a 12" rough-in, but will it work with a 10" rough-in? Or is there any way to make it work with only 10" without having to tear out the wall? It is extremely difficult to get a plumber out here now that our original one has gone blind and become ill.

    Also, is the SanaGloss resistant to mineral deposits that are actually in the water? I have a well and pump system and the water has always come out slightly discolored. It leaves horrible red stains on everything. We've tried every septic-safe cleaning product we could find, but nothing has worked (the stains were already there when we moved in).

    I would really appreciate a response. We are hoping to get new toilets by this Friday and need to know asap.
    Thanks in advance.
  16. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You need at least 11-1/8" from the back wall to the center of the drain.
    If you have less than this, you can try the Toto Vespin with the optional 10" Unifit, this lets you have a rough-in of 9-1/4" or more.

    The Vespin has a coating of Sanagloss in the bowl, which is better with bad water. CST764SG

    The Drake can also be ordered with Sanagloss, model CST744SG
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  17. Reader Review

    Reader Review Comments by readers

    I purchased two Toto Drake toilets about a month ago. I never thought I would rave about something as mundane as a toilet. But this one really works and it stays clean, cleaner than any toilet I ever used. Naturally, I ordered it with the special coating. Not once has either toilet required the use of a plunger or a toilet bowl brush and
    they flush quietly and quickly without leaving anything in the bowl. I love Terry's sight for steering me in the right direction. When my other two toilets are ready for replacement I will certainly order two more Totos without hesitation. My plumber had recommended a Kohler toilet, but after I did my research I thought I should go with a Toto. When the plumber came back to install it, he said they are the best toilets he has ever installed and only recommended Kohler because most people never heard of Toto and are reluctant to purchase a brand they don't know. Well, I'm spreading the word. This is one toilet that deserves its reputation.

    Harriet, Indiana March 13, 2008
  18. suceress

    suceress Member

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    Ohhh! It's to the CENTER of the pipe! I thought it was from the wall to the beginning of the pipe. It is about 12" from the wall to the center. That should make the Drake fit in well. I had already ruled out the Vespin because of the reported difficulty to install in small spaces. We are installing the toilets ourselves. We are having to replace the subflooring due to water damage. Is there something we should put on the floor or underneath to protect it from moisture (we will put flooring over it, but want it to be water resistant just in case).
    Do you know of any cleaners that are good to use on the SanaGloss finish that won't damage it and that won't harm septic tanks?

    Thank you very much!

    PS. I was watching a program on the history of bathrooms on the History Channel and it mentioned Toto as the best quality producer of toilets. I think the model they were showing was the Ultramax.
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  19. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    Imagine that... Toto has earned a spot in toilet history!:D

    The sketch below shows rough in dimension.

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  20. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    I've installed several Toto's with the Unifit adapter. It isn't really a big deal. Yes, you do have to drill a few holes, and if it is into tile, you need the right bit, but shouldn't be a major deciding factor. I have both a Vespin and a Carlyle in my condo...both work well. I wanted a color for the one, so I chose the Vespin which was a little less, but used white with the Carlyle. The one-piece has fewer places for dirt to hide. The plastic inserts Toto (at least used to) supplies for the Unifit seem to be designed for a metric hole...the nearest US equivalent fractional bit is a little small making it hard to get them in a tight hole. You can do it, but I found it easier to just buy some inserts designed for the fractional drill bit I had. If it was vinyl and a wood subfloor, it wouldn't matter, but in a hard tile, it is. This was several years ago, maybe they've updated what they supply. A small nit.
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