T0T0 Drake toilet product review

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Has anyone had an opportunity to compare Toto Drake and Ultramax II in actual household use? I would be very interested in reading which one does a better job or what are practical differences, particularly in flushing performance.
 

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Has anyone had an opportunity to compare Toto Drake and Ultramax II in actual household use? I would be very interested in reading which one does a better job or what are practical differences, particularly in flushing performance.

The trapways are the same, flush valve the same, a little difference in height of the water stored in the tanks.
For that reason, the two-piece holds a very slight edge. I prefer the one-piece Ultramax. They all flush very well.

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Hi Terry,
Can the user adjust the float valve height in the UltraMax II, allowing more water to flow into the UltraMax II reservoir? I was thinking such an adjustment might even out the slight edge in "flush power" that the Toto Drake has over the UltraMax II.
 

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Hi Terry,
Can the user adjust the float valve height in the UltraMax II, allowing more water to flow into the UltraMax II reservoir? I was thinking such an adjustment might even out the slight edge in "flush power" that the Toto Drake has over the UltraMax II.

You mean the overflow height?
Frankly I don't see the need. They work fine. Some of the earlier MS854114 Ultimate models I installed were rated at 325 grams, using the low water height and they worked just fine. I installed three in a church I go to, and they have been stellar.
 

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Putting a TOTO Drake together in Black (51)

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Almost done.

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Ready for some clear caulking at the floor. I like taking the pictures before I do that. The caulking I use goes on white and dries clear by the morning.

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Okay, why not a white one in the other bathroom. Sure.
 

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The Drake CST744ER with the right hand tank lever. An older 1906 Seattle home, in the basement and rough plumbed right against the wall to the left. Replaced the leaking shutoff valve in the corner while I had the old toilet out.

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Installed Thursday in Bothell this week. Pulled out a Mansfield 160 that came with the house.
A nice upgrade for the kids in the home.
 

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So the CST744EG looks like a great 1.28 gpf toilet. Are any of the Toto dual flush 1.28/0.8 or 1.28/0.9 gpf tanks compatible with the C744EG bowl? Compatible in the sense that the tank mounts OK and will work. I'm thinking that even if the C744EG bowl wasn't designed to empty with 0.8 gallons, it would work fine for liquids (could be wrong, in which case this would be a bad idea).

Thanks, Wayne
 

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Nice work ! Those TOTO's flying off the shelves up in the PNW! I have Toto in my 2002 home even those were good
 

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Are any of the Toto dual flush 1.28/0.8 or 1.28/0.9 gpf tanks compatible with the C744EG bowl?
Thanks, Wayne

The dual flush CST746 tank and bowl are totally different than the CST744 series. Not match at all. Different flush valve sizing and other factors too.
 

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The dual flush CST746 tank and bowl are totally different than the CST744 series. Not match at all. Different flush valve sizing and other factors too.

hi Terry!

do you know if the cst744sl#01 (drake two piece 1.6 ada) has the 360 flush and the wax like coating?
 

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hi Terry!

do you know if the cst744sl#01 (drake two piece 1.6 ada) has the 360 flush and the wax like coating?

The CST744SL has the rim on top of the bowl with a straight down the bowl rinse.
The CEFIONTECT technology would show on the model number as "G"
The CST454CEFG would be a tall Drake II with the CEFIONTECT bowl finish and "C" meaning tornado flush that gives you the swirl.
 

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So is the Drake II still your top choice for a 2 piece toilet? Need to replace a couple craptacular commodes in my house, and 2 piece ones are easier to wrestle into the somewhat cramped bathrooms there. Old ones are Kohler of some variety, and one has never flushed worth a... hoot. I just want/need something that flushes WELL. should I get the Drake II? Thank you!
 

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The CST454CUFG Drake II is very nice.
That being said, the CST244EF Entrada is good, and so is the CST744EL Drake ADA.

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The CST454CUFG Drake II is very nice.
That being said, the CST244EF Entrada is good, and so is the CST744EL Drake ADA.

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Do you prefer the Eco drake over the original drake with the 1.6gpf.
 

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In Washington and California, we only get the 1.28, no longer the 1.6
The 1.28 has been working well though. And if you want more water, holding the handle down a moment drops more water from the tank quickly.

I'm a fan of the CST743, CST744, CST453 and CST454 series
I'm not a fan of the CST746 series.
 
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