tamper proof receptacles

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  1. monkeybrains

    monkeybrains New Member

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    Is any one brand of tamper proof devices better than another? Are the devices you find in the big box stores(brand for brand) typically the same that you would find in an electrical supply house? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Jim
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Making something "tamper proof" would require an enclosure of some kind. The devices, i.e., switches and receptacles, are not tamper proof by them selves, at least depending on what you mean by "tamper proof".
  3. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    There are good, better, best available in any line (and you may not have access to all of those at the big box store - check an electrical supply house and the manufacturer's website to determine what's what). More money buys you a more robust internal construction, not necessarily for their shutter mechanism, but for the electrical contact size and thickness. Depending on where you live, they began to be required in 2008.
  4. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    hj you are a little behind the time on this one! The electrical code for new contstruction now requires most receptacles to be tamper proof ( interpret this as child-resistant). All the major brands make such devices. They have a shutter across the blade openings, and will only open when a blade is inserted into BOTH at the same time. A child trying to poke something in to one side....it does not go.

    Just an example: http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/e...mpaignId=T9F&gclid=CLiXqaTg9q4CFYub7QodDDr1xw
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    I do not consider "childproof" the same a "tamper proof". My interpretation of "tamper proof" is "vandal proof". But they have been designing "childproof" outlets for decades. Some of the earliest ones "interlocked" the hot and neutral slots mechanically so you had to stick objects into both openings before the power would flow.
  6. Jim Port

    Jim Port Electrical Contractor

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    The code uses the term "tamper resistant" for the devices with the shutters to prevent things like keys being inserted into the receptacles.
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2012
  7. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    NOTHING is vandal proof! Vandals have a school that teaches them how to deal with "vandal proof" gizmos!
  8. ballvalve

    ballvalve General Engineering Contractor

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    Incorrect, 2 large german shepherds in the yard make all the surroundings 'tamper resistant' and 'vandal proof'.

    And that sign with the revolver AND a dog that says mind the dogs AND the owner, sends all vandals to the guy with a parakeet next door. For best results, hand paint the sign with a bad brush on the end of a rusty 55 gallon drum.

    I had a trail on a property that the dope growers were using, and one of those full size body targets full of holes and a note about trespassers on it soon solved the issue.
  9. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    Dogs are easily managed.
  10. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    You mean you'd poison the dogs so they wouldn't shred you to pieces? That's cruel:mad:
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