Switch with GFI

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  1. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    This is probably one for Leviton. I have never seen this, have you?

    I'd like to have in one strap a GFI with a rocker switch, but no outlet.

    I'd like to see the switch be the same size as one of the switches in a tandem decoura switch. The GFI buttons could be below it.

    I'll be installing a fan/light in a shower stall and am looking for the easiest and cleanest look. The switch box will have a second strap with three switches on it, for another fan/light/heat rig. The light switch on that one will also control the vanity light.

    There is no useful purpose in a receptacle at the door, and the narrow switch which is typical will stand out.

    Anyone have a lead?

    Again, I expect that it just does not yet exist.
  2. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    There are wire in GFCI devices without any component (i.e., switch or receptacles) and of course, you could always install a GFCI CB in the panel, but then, if it trips, it isn't as convenient (but in a well designed system, it may never trip).
  3. Homeownerinburb

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    Yes, a blank face gfi exists, but I don't want to put in three straps if I could help it. And I'd as soon not put in a gfi breaker, even though it would be right across the hall in a sub panel. The house dates back to the late '40's and I am dubious of what the wires would do being down stream of a GFI breaker. I imagine all sorts of trouble with that.
  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    If the panel has room (and you can find a GFCI breaker that fits!), being right across the hall may mean a new run wouldn't be too bad.
  5. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    The Leviton Decora listings show a single rocker switch over a single receptacle with GFCI buttons in the middle. Don't see anything without a receptacle.
  6. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    Yes. I understand.
  7. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    The inspector will insist on Arc Fault with any new circuits.
  8. jwelectric

    jwelectric Electrical Contractor/Instructor

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    not for a bath
  9. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    It never hurts to ask.....but yes, I think you are correct on that one.
  10. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    What would the GFCI monitorl if there were no outlet?
  11. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades

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    You should contact them and have them make a special one for you.
  12. Homeownerinburb

    Homeownerinburb New Member

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    Right after I start to lay golden eggs.
  13. Homeownerinburb

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    The fan/light combo in the shower stall, which the manufacturer and my inspector want to have on a gfi.

    My inspector is ok with me using the vanity gfi for this, now I just need to get up in the attic and see how the conduit runs.
  14. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    If you are lucky, the feed could go to the GFCI receptacle first and then to the switch. If so, all you would have to do is change the wire from the line side to the load side.
  15. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    As with any GFCI, anything wired on it's load side...anything you deem desirable or required.
  16. Homeownerinburb

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    I got into the property today. The vanity receptacle and the lights are on two different circuits, the vanity conduit passes nowhere near the light switch.
  17. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    If you don't want to add a GFCI in the box, or at the panel, you could still add one of the blank face ones in an out of the way location, as long as it was still accessible. Never know, you may want to plug in a vacuum or steam mop or something, and having a 'normal' one near the floor somewhere may be a convenient item.
  18. Homeownerinburb

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    Actually, there is an evil genius in that. The hall is quite long.....without an outlet. What would be SO cool is that I could lift the power from the lights in the bath. Ooohh. I feel some wood coming on.
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