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Discussion in 'Health and Wellness Forum' started by Cass, Apr 27, 2009.
Now that it has been a while since the start of this, and Canada I heard has pigs with swine flu, what is everyone's opinion on it?
I've heard you don't catch it from pigs.
Eypt killed their pigs, even though there were no cases of the flu there.
And no way to catch it from a pig.
I wonder though, how did the pigs catch it?
in Canada? Where's Frenchie when you need em...
Moment of silence for slain pigs.
Okay time for bacon!
I dont know, I think I would eat a veggie burger.
so you can burp, fart, be hungry like 10 minutes later? No thank you.
If it isn't covered with hair and ****'s in the open public...I don't want it.
Ever wonder why the leanest animals on the planet...are meat eaters,
the fattest/biggest ones are vegetarians?
They are back!
If humans get swine flu, do pigs get human flu?? And who the they catch it from??
They went by my house again!
But we got good news!
y LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer Lauran Neergaard, Ap Medical Writer – Tue Sep 15, 5:17 pm ET
WASHINGTON – The Food and Drug Administration approved the new swine flu vaccine Tuesday, a long-anticipated step as the government works to start mass vaccinations next month. Limited supplies should start trickling out the first week of October — about a week earlier than expected, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told Congress. Then about 45 million doses should arrive around Oct. 15, followed by more shipments each week.
She said they'll be available at up to 90,000 sites, including schools and clinics, across the U.S. that state health departments have chosen as best at getting the shots out fast.
Eventually, "we will have enough vaccine available for everyone," Sebelius said. Everyone who wants it, that is.
The government has ordered 195 million doses but may order more if there's enough demand, she said. Typically fewer than 100 million Americans seek flu vaccine every year, and it's unclear whether swine flu — what scientists prefer to call the 2009 H1N1 strain — will prompt much more demand. A recent Associated Press-GfK poll found 57 percent of people said they were likely to get it.
This year is unusual: Many people will have to line up twice for flu vaccine, once to be inoculated against regular winter flu and a second time for an H1N1 vaccination.
The new swine flu seems no more deadly than regular winter flu, which every year kills 36,000 Americans and hospitalizes 200,000. But there's an important difference: This H1N1 strain sickens younger people more frequently than the people over 65 who are the main victims of seasonal flu.
So the government wants certain people in line first for the H1N1 vaccinations: Pregnant women; the young, from age 6 months up through age 24; and people younger than 65 who have flu-risky conditions such as asthma, diabetes or heart disease; caregivers of the at-risk, including newborns; and health workers.
The vast majority of people who get swine flu "so far are not terribly ill," Sebelius noted, saying most will recover fine at home with some rest and fluids. And they shouldn't race to doctors' offices seeking tests to find out what kind of flu they have — H1N1 or the regular strains that circulate every winter — because treatment is the same.
"The flu is the flu is the flu right now," Sebelius said.
Nor should doctors hand out prescriptions for anti-flu medicines to be used to prevent flu, she added, because "it could make them sicker in the long run."
The drugs Tamiflu and Relenza should be used for treatment only, she stressed.
Sebelius announced the FDA's approval of vaccine made by four of the expected five manufacturers: CSL Ltd. of Australia, Switzerland's Novartis Vaccines, Sanofi Pasteur of France — which produces flu shots at its Swiftwater, Pa., factory — and Maryland-based MedImmune LLC, which makes the only nasal-spray flu vaccine.
London-based GlaxoSmithKline also was expected to supply vaccine. Sebelius said only that a fifth manufacturer's vaccine was expected to be approved soon, pending some final steps.
Getting licensing from the FDA means that the vaccine is made properly and meets specific manufacturing and quality standards.
What's the right dose? Figuring that out is the job of the National Institutes of Health, which last week announced studies showing that one dose appears to protect adults — and that protection kicks in just eight to 10 days after the shot, faster than scientists had predicted.
Studies in children and pregnant women are continuing to settle on the right dose for those populations.
The H1N1 vaccine seems just as safe as the long-used regular flu vaccine, the FDA said, not a surprise as it's made the same way. Side effects include soreness or redness at the injection site, and some fever.
The government will keep a sharp eye for any very rare side effects. The last mass vaccination against a different swine flu, in 1976, was marred by reports of the paralyzing Guillain-Barre syndrome; scientists never proved whether that link was real or coincidence.
Just some additional reading for those with kids might want to take a look at.
Well,Swine influenza virus (SIV) is any strain of the influenza family of viruses that is endemic in pigs.As of 2009, the known SIV strains include influenza C and the subtypes of influenza A known as H1N1, H1N2, H3N1, H3N2, and H2N3.
Swine influenza virus is common throughout pig populations worldwide. Transmission of the virus from pigs to humans is not common and does not always lead to human influenza, often resulting only in the production of antibodies in the blood. If transmission does cause human influenza, it is called zoonotic swine flu. People with regular exposure to pigs are at increased risk of swine flu infection. The meat of an infected animal poses no risk of infection when properly cooked.
During the mid-20th century, identification of influenza subtypes became possible, allowing accurate diagnosis of transmission to humans. Since then, only 50 such transmissions have been confirmed. These strains of swine flu rarely pass from human to human. Symptoms of zoonotic swine flu in humans are similar to those of influenza and of influenza-like illness in general, namely chills, fever, sore throat, muscle pains, severe headache, coughing, weakness and general discomfort.No need to send piggy to another solar system.We all have to take good preventive measures against this deadly virus.
I've stopped kissing strangers on the train.
Lucky for us that feral pigs/hogs etc. don't spread swine flu.
They do carry other serious diseases; TB etc.. and anyone worried about flu, should look into the spread of various strains of TB.
There are millions of them in something like 30 states (including HI) and their numbers are growing abnormally fast. They reach ****** maturity at age 5-6 months and have 6-12 young on average with much larger litters fairly common, twice a year!
With few if any natural predators, other than hunters, world wide their population has exploded in the last decade or so, at a much higher rate than historically. And on average, they are getting much larger than 'normal'; 400 lbs is average now and they have been found to grow up to 1400lbs. Actually they never stop growing.
No one can come up with any type of a plan to even attempt to control their numbers or to prevent their spreading into the areas they are spreading into; currently from FL to CA to WI to VA. They are destroying the areas they live in and they eat almost anything. They are also becoming much more aggressive.
PETA and other anti hunting/hunter folks should be proud of themselves!
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September 25, 2009 in Nation/World
US says first swine flu vaccine to arrive Oct. 5
In brief: Health District suspends mercury limits for H1N1 shots September 25, 2009
ATLANTA â€” The first swine flu vaccine should be in some doctorsâ€™ offices as early as Oct. 5, U.S. health officials said Friday.
These early batches of vaccine will protect 6 million to 7 million people. Over time, the government expects to have a total of 250 million doses of the new vaccine, although 10 percent of that has been promised to other countries.
The U.S. vaccine shipments will go directly to doctors, clinics and other providers designated by each state, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said at a press conference. Most of the initial doses will be a nasal spray form of vaccine, but the majority of doses during flu season will be shots.
CDC officials also said swine flu is widespread in 26 states now, up from 21 a week ago.
Some possible good news â€” the intensity is trending down a little in the Southeast. The percentage of doctorâ€™s office visits for flu-like illnesses fell slightly in Georgia and some other states. However, the improvement is only slight and itâ€™s not clear if itâ€™s the start of a national trend or not, CDC officials said.
The CDC doesnâ€™t have an exact count of swine flu deaths and hospitalizations, but existing reports suggest the infection has caused more than 600 deaths and more than 9,000 hospitalizations.
by Jean-Louis Santini Jean-louis Santini â€“ Sat Oct 3, 10:09 pm ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) â€“ US health authorities are hoping to contain what they say is an intensifying swine flu pandemic with a massive A(H1N1) vaccination campaign starting this week.
"We expect Friday in our weekly update of FluView that we will be reporting substantial flu illness in most of the country, significant flu activity in virtually all states," said Anne Schuchat, director of the Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
"Most states do have quite a lot of disease right now, and that is unusual for this time of the year," she said at a press conference on Friday evening.
Schuchat also shared her concern over the serious risks facing pregnant women infected with the virus, whose risk of dying from the A(H1N1) strain is effectively six times higher than for the general population.
Between April and August, 100 pregnant women in the United States who contracted the virus were admitted to intensive care, and 28 died, Schuchat said.
According to the most recent figures released by the CDC, 10,082 people have been hospitalized with swine flu in the United States so far, with 936 deaths from the virus, including 36 children.
An analysis of post-mortem samples from 77 people who died from the virus showed that most had contracted a secondary infection; a third had pneumonia, for which there is no vaccine.
Schuchat reiterated the importance of vaccination for pregnant women and other groups considered particularly vulnerable to the virus, including children, young adults up to 24 years old, and those suffering from certain other chronic medical problems.
US health authorities on Friday announced plans for a massive vaccination campaign intended to protect millions of Americans, with the first distribution of 600,000 vaccine doses set for Tuesday, two weeks ahead of schedule.
The United States expects to quickly dispense some six or seven million doses and hopes to administer 250 million doses by the end of the year.
Clinical trials carried out on five different vaccines showed that a single dose of 15 micrograms is sufficient to cause an efficient immune response.
"We are transitioning from the planning phase to the implementation phase," Schuchat said. "This is really just the beginning."
Health professionals have welcomed the sooner-than-expected debut of the vaccine, hoping that the immunization will be able to protect millions of people at risk because of cardiac disease, obesity or asthma.
The first vaccine doses are being made available in the form of nasal sprays that take effect in about eight days.
But despite the early arrival of the vaccine, some 15 US states, including some of the most populated such as California, could run out of hospital beds if just 35 percent of the population becomes infected with the virus, according to a CDC information model.
The figure was calculated based on the 1968 flu pandemic, which was considered fairly mild, and is based on the assumption that the infection period would last eight weeks.
A recent report by the White House's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, which modeled the outcomes of an infection rate of 30 percent, found up to 1.8 million Americans could require hospitalization and some 30,000 could die.
That figure would be lower than the average of 36,000 Americans who die annually from seasonal flu, which usually begins around October.
They have started looking for adverse affects from the vaccine but I haven't heard anything negative about it yet...
The worst that will happen is you will start to grow those little sharp pig hairs.
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