Softener settings

Discussion in 'Water Softener Forum, problems, installation and r' started by tntent805, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    Well, guess I probably wont be getting any more answers / help from Gary now.
    I'm just concerned that I added too much water to the brine tank.
    If I added too much extra water to the brine tank Is there an easy way
    to remove some of the brine water in order for it to fill to the proper amount next time ?
  2. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    Yes, simply manually regen the unit. It will pull out the water and only fill to the proper level. Gary should answer/help no matter who sold it.
  3. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    A better answer is to leave it alone, it will be sucked out during the next regeneration, and that way you don't have to guess how much to take out or deal with getting rid of salt water.

    And IMO Skip's instructions seem to be lacking or you wouldn't have had all these questions... And if he wasn't so negative, I'd help him sell more softeners.
  4. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    You ever wonder why I have a problem with you? You ever wonder why a lot of others have a problem with you? The common factor is you. You bash people at the things they say like you are the GURU of water treatment. Just like your opinion of my instructions. I offered them, but the OP didn't take me up on the offer so now he has some questions. And this is why I say you have a bag full of cheap shots. You don't know the whole story but you will make a comment like that. When you talk about being negitive, look in the mirror.
  5. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    Skip did offer,
    I just felt it would be better to get my questions answered in this forum.
    As such, I got both of your pointers & answers to many of my questions.
    I have learned allot from both of you. Additionally, I have been able
    to learn allot from other threads and posts both of you have made.

    Thank you,
    to both of you for your answers, pointers and views.
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2013
  6. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    No I don't wonder why you have a problem with me. I used to be just like you. Nor do I wonder about those others either. Remember that I reply to what y'all say, not about you as to what kind of person you are or where you live or how you live.

    Your instructions were not included and my mistake was thinking you would have sent them to all your customers if they wanted them or not but... me, I wouldn't sell to anyone that refused my instructions or if I had the slightest idea that they wouldn't follow them.

    And as we see, the OP has had many questions. Many of which I would have answered before he bought from me because I know prospective customers usually don't know enough to ask questions about everything they will need to know. I even had them write down programing info and the data before they bought from me. And asked them if they had any questions about that. Some of those people I educated didn't buy from me, or then but came back in days to up to a few years later. I talked to every internet customer I sold to.

    I also I notice that your customer was interested in me answering at least some of his questions... That alone should have got your attention but it seems as if it hasn't. Or, you too were relying on me. I usually smile while typing replies but now I'm grinning pretty wide over that.

    Tntent, you're welcome.
  7. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    Sounds to me you have a much different way of thinking than I do. IMO, you sound more like a dictator, (do it may way or I won't sell it to you). Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick to my style.
  8. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    reserve regeneration

    One more question, since this softener is a clack ws1 cs, 2 cf unit, I think u guys said it uses a variable reserve, at what point should I expect it to regenerate ? And how does
    the ws1 cs calculate the reserve.
    Tks
    Tntent
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2013
  9. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    It regens based on your daily usage. It collects data of your usage over time and calculates when it needs to regen.
  10. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    System regenerated

    Last night unit went to 0 gal. remaining.
    After it went to zero, I used my Hatch 5B and it was blue without using any drops of solution. At 2:00 a.m. unit regenerated and I tested the hardness again. Today, it took one drop of solution to turn water tested blue.
    Settings were at 45, 000k, hardness set to 23,
    13.5 lbs salt dose. Override set to 14 days.
    Clack ws1-cs set to P14
    ( post, downflow.
    1st. bw = 8,
    Brine Slow Rinse = 60,
    No 2nd. Bw.
    Fast rinse =6

    Thoughts, suggestions, etc.
  11. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    You stated you tested the hardness and it came up 26 grains. If that is the case, you will have hard water prior to a regen in the future. It may take some time because with a new unit you have full capacity (30K per CF). This capacity will slowly be used up because of the hardness being higher than programed.
  12. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    If I change the hardness setting to 26, should the
    k, capacity be left at 45k, or does it need to be changed to 40k ?
  13. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    Leave at 45k if you want and test just before a regen several times to insure no hard water prior to a regen.
  14. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    K, but should I change hardness to 26 ?
  15. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    The unit must be set on the incoming hardness. So if you measured 26 gpg, the unit must be set for 26 gpg.
  16. tntent805

    tntent805 New Member

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    Am I correct, in changing the hardness setting from 23 to 26, that only changes / effects the water after the next regeneration ?
  17. mialynette2003

    mialynette2003 Member

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    No. It will not effect the water quality at all. Lets put it this way. If you need to travel 26 miles but only put enough gas in the travel 23 miles, what's going to happen? If your hardness is actually 26 and you have the unit set on 23, you are going to run out of soft water prior to a regen. It may not happen right away, but it will happen.
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