Shower Handle w/NO SCREWS???

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice' started by kmclisterman, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. kmclisterman

    kmclisterman New Member

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    Help!!! I'm trying to remove the handles in my shower/tub, but I can't figure out how they attach. It isn't the "normal" way of removing the decorative cap, removing the screw, then removing the handle. I don't see any way that these handles are attached. Has anyone ever hear of this? And does anyone have any suggestions on how to get them off???:confused:
  2. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    What brand of valve is it?
  3. Pull really hard, it will come off.
  4. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    Some Kohler handles have the part behind the handle screw on to and hold the handle in place.
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    The best suggestion is "SEND US A PICTURE". Without some information on the faucet there is absolutely no way we can even guess what kind of faucet it is, and therefore no way to tell you how to remove the handle. But if it is a Kohler faucet with a rod handle, the cap pulls off the end of it and the screw is up inside.
  6. fast pasquale

    fast pasquale hardwood flooring contractor

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    Does it have a lever??.. if so you'll need a small allen key to remove it first
  7. kmclisterman

    kmclisterman New Member

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    No Brand

    That's the thing...there is NO BRAND NAME anywhere!!! I will try to get a picture of it today & send it!!!:(
  8. brownizs

    brownizs In the Trades

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    If it has caps, they should remove, if there is a screw behind the actual handle part that you grab, it is removed. Majority will have caps that you can pry out with a small flat headed screwdriver.
  9. Leo427

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    hj,

    I'm not the original poster. I was trying to help kmclisterman and I submitted my reply too soon. Sorry about that. I'll try it again.

    I had a similar situation involving a Kohler bathroom faucet. I was helped out with advice from this fine forum. I don't know if this will help you with your situation, but here it goes.

    The hot side of the pictured faucet was leaking. I could not find any caps or screws to get the handle off. It turns out that the bonnet (the chrome piece below the handle) unscrews from the base of the fixture. The handle is attached to the bonnet with a screw from below. I was then able to remove the cartridge.

    Good luck!

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    Last edited: Feb 13, 2007
  10. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    That looks more like a lavatory faucet than a shower/tub one, but try unscrewing the large round handle bosses from the faucet.
  11. brownizs

    brownizs In the Trades

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    I have a faucet such as that in my bathroom, but there is an allen screw that you loosen to remove the handles, then you are able to get to the stems.
  12. Anyone ever been successful at getting the tool to remove the cartridges on Moen Monticello 2 handle lavs?


    I called Moen twice, twice they said they was coming, no tool.


    It looks like a slot socket that has to fit within a slim area. A screwdriver slowly damages the barrel.
  13. Leo427

    Leo427 New Member

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    browniz,

    This is a Kohler Forte K-10272-4G 8" widespread faucet. I don't know what brand/model you have, but this one is set up with no allen screw.

    I just took another look to be sure. ;)

    It was frustrating to say the least. Previously, any faucet I dealt with had an exposed screw or one covered by a cap.
  14. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    I got mine from the Moen rep.
  15. brownizs

    brownizs In the Trades

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    I had to go look at ours, and cannot even remember the manufacturer. I am getting rust from the caps under the faucet handles on mine, and plus I knocked the toothbrush holder into it one night, and now there is a nice crack in the sink basin (does not leak), which it all is going to get replaced next spring.
  16. trydiy

    trydiy New Member

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    I have the same problem. I look around the handle and cant find anything that could hide the screws. I attached a picture. Im afraid to pull hard and i tried
    but afraid to break it. HELP! showerhandles.jpg
  17. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    The should be no way to remove a Monticello stem with a screwdriver. You have to grap the two flats and rotate it. Those are Grohe or Hansgrohe handles. You have to grab them and pull REAL hard, which is hard to do without marking up the chrome finish.
  18. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    I just bought a new faucet from Kraus that my wife picked out, and could not figure out how to remove the decorative cap so I could acess the screw to remove the valve handle so I could install the valve ( inserts through from the bottom of the lavatory). The cap on that faucet unscrews from the handle.
  19. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    I guess you have a marble or granite toth brush holder?
  20. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; I guess you have a marble or granite toth brush holder

    No, he puts the brushes in the finger holes of a bowling ball.
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