Sharkbite Questions Code Leaks hate em like em

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  1. cwhyu2

    cwhyu2 Consultant

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    The only fitting that I would use under ground copper to copper is a flare coupling.Or you could use a pack coupling.
  2. Couch-Tuber

    Couch-Tuber New Member

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    sharkbite

    I tried a sharkbite 4" sleeve the other night to fix a leak. THe existing pipe was less than pristine lol and the sleeve would not seal even though it was seated down the 1" required. The pipes gotta be in very good condition and line up, which mine are not. It was a real pain trying to get the thing off again with that little collet tool. I had to assist it with an 18" prybar.

    Rubber seals it what they use inside. Are you kidding me? Even if I could have gotten one to seal, I'm skeptical that these would hold up after a few years. Rubber high tech silicon etc will break down eventually. I see these as a stop gap temporary solution. They would be okay if you have ready access like a basement but hidden in the walls?
  3. AAnderson

    AAnderson In the Trades

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    I like shark bites but would never use them where they are not accessible or could fail and create water damage. I have had several 3/4" tee's fail with cracks in the cast. They are an excellent stop gap repair.. Our local building inspectors do not like them,
  4. moisheh

    moisheh New Member

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    Peter Griffin should change his avatar to include Master Thief" What he really stated was that if there is a quick way to do a repair he will pick the long way to increase his billable hours. Amazing that he thinks that is honest.


    Moisheh
  5. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Tell you what. If you call me for a leaking pipe I'll slap one of these on it and I won't charge you a penny. ;) Schwinn%20Repair.jpg

    Do you want it done, or do you want it done right?
  6. Cass

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    After looking at a job I charge a flat rate to do it...so all is well for me reguardless...they can take it or leave it but I get a minimum for coming out just to tell them and they won't know if I am using a sharkbite or not unless they ask...as I don't describe every fitting I am going to use to do a particular job...all they have to know is I stand behind my work...
  7. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    If you want the quick way, then toddle on down to the Depot and pick up a couple of sharkbites for yourself. You don't need to hire a plumber to slap a sharkbite on it. Anyone can do it. While you are at it, pick up a couple of those accordian tail stocks and a handful of rubber P traps and you will never have to spend a dime on a job done right ever again.
  8. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    I will tell you...when you have to make a repair and the main shutoff won't close all the way and water is leaking by...you say turn the water off at the curb stop???...not if one can't be found...sorry I don't carry a nitrogen freeze set up that I can use once every 15 years or so...so I used a sharkbite...nope I don't have a jet sweat or any thing else either....not enough call to carry one on the truck...sharkbites do have a place in some situations....conpression fitting...I would rather use a sharkbite in the situation I was in than a compression fitting...
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2010
  9. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    I always had a 1/2" and a 3/4 jet swett on the truck. Just so though, why do you prefer a sharkbite over a compression union? IMO the compression coupling is a much more solid connection, not that I would do that either. The problem with sharkbites is they will leak if they are pulled on or stressed. Also I have been reading of quite a lot of O ring failures also. Granted most of them are because someone did'nt take the sharp edge off the copper before jamming it on. I have a problem with putting my faith in a piect of plastic with a couple of O rings in it.
  10. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    A jet sweat will only work if your installing a valve...BTW sharkbites are brass not plastic...your thinking of Watts...
  11. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Union or drain coupling. Yep, Watts are plastic. I think there is another company making plastic ones too. Maybe Gator bite?
  12. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    Never needed a jet sweat for a drain...I would use a banded coupling.....a union leaves you in the same situation, unable to sweat a joint because of water, unless you are installing a valve...
  13. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; Repair the leaking pipe with a solder coupling,

    NO conscientious, law abiding plumber would repair an underground leak inside the house with a soft solder joint. And unless you use oxy/acetylene brazing or silver soldering in a hole is almost impossible. But it WOULD require a lot more billable time. I have not seen a Sharkbite large enough to repair a drain.
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  14. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    and while Sharkbites are OK for underground repairs per the Sharkbite info. I would never use one of them for an underground repair...even if approved localy...
  15. johnjh2o1

    johnjh2o1 Plumbing Contractor for 49 years

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    We carry a jet sweat kit from 1/2"- 2". You stated you use sharkbites when a main shutoff won't close all the way so why not use a jet sweat and install a new valve. This would solve not just the imitate problem but would also solve future problems.

    John
  16. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Who said anything about underground or under slab? That be a whole different kettle o fish.
  17. dx

    dx General Contractor

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    That was the original subject of the thread. Read the very first post.
  18. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Oh yes, thanks. So then we're talking brazing the joint or a dresser coupling.
  19. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    I asked and they didn't want to spring for a new valve....had they wanted a new valve I would have had the town find or install a new curb stop...
  20. eddielee

    eddielee New Member

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    Give us a break

    Take it outside and lets get back to helpful tips!
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