Running 2 shower heads in shower only can I just use tub out on delta?

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  1. Spunger1

    Spunger1 New Member

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    Hey guys. I am doing a shower remodel in my master and ran into an odd problem I can't fully figure out. I have no tub but want 2 shower heads. I have the delta r1000 unws valve and then a 3 way diverter. On the delta valve it has openings for a tub and shower. Can I just feed one shower with the shower out and the other shower with the tub outlet? Basically getting rid of the diverter? Nothing has been installed yet because I'm not sure it can work like. The other valve is the r11000.

    What do you guys think? I went with all delta stuff from their vero line so I have the rain shower head shower kit and then a small hand held one.

    Any help would be appreciated.
  2. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    Are you wanting both shower heads to be on at the same time? On my old shower, I had connected a hand shower to a wall union in the place of the tub spout and the "diverter" was really an A/B valve that selected between fixed shower and hand shower. When I redid my shower, I got rid of the diverter and just connected the single shower head to the tub filler port.

    On many of the rough-in valve bodies, the shower port is smaller than the tub filler port. Depending on the GPM on the shower heads, there is the possibility that the tub port may steal some of the flow from the shower port.
  3. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Both outlets on that rough-in valve are open at the same time, so only if you want both heads to always be active could you use both - those ports are not a built-in diverter. What is probably the best is to install the valve body upside down so that the larger port is going up towards the showerheads and cap off the smaller, shower output. Keep the hot and cold coming in from the normal sides, though. Double-check, but I think the cartridge will fit in two ways, 180-degrees apart. Just make sure to insert with the top side pointing up.
  4. Spunger1

    Spunger1 New Member

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    I'll check the valves and see if I can do that as far as rotating it and installing the valve 180. I only want one shower head on at a time.

    I am taking then since the r1000 has no diverter function then I need to keep my 3 way diverter and use that to make my shower heads work?

    Thanks for the help guys!
  5. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Yes, you need to keep the diverter valve.
  6. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    Since you have a 3-way diverter and only want 2 shower heads, consider adding a toe-tester close to the floor to make good use of the third port.
  7. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    By "Three way diverter" he may mean three ports and one of them is the inlet. Otherwise the unused port MUST be connected to one of the other outlets and NOT capped. If he wanted to use a "toe tester" then he could connect THAT to the "tub" outlet and use a diverter spout, along with the diverter to select the shower option desired.
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