repair bad PVC union

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  1. raggmopp

    raggmopp New Member

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    On our garden irrigation system we had to sand down an old PVC pipe, which had swollen from age, to accept a new union, but we now have a leak at that new union. We used the purple solvent and PVC glue recommended and all other joints are fine. There's not enough pipe left to cut it out and replace it with a new union, so we have to find a way to fix that leak. Any ideas? It's in the pipe coming out of the pump, so there's up to 60 pounds of pressure on it. The union is where I tried to cement the threaded male end of a 1 1/2" solvent weld union to an existing pipe. Most of that union is OK, but water spews out of about a 1/2" section, so I don't think it possible to separate the items so I can try again with another type of cement that would fill any gaps. Thanks for your help.
  2. Gary Swart

    Gary Swart In the Trades

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    There are several issues here. First, you never have to sand down PVC pipe to make it fit. It sounds like you were trying to make the joint fit together dry, and that doesn't work. You need to understand how these joints are made. PVC joints are really glued at all, they are chemically welded. The so-called glue is actually a solvent that briefly melts the surfaces of the pipe and fittings. While in this semi liquid state, the pieces will slip together easily, and when the solvent dries (a few seconds) the joint is complete. You do need to avoid applying water or twisting the joint for a few minutes. There are 3 kinds of plastic pipes in use today. ABS used only for drain lines, CPVC appproved but usually not recommended for domestic hot and cold water lines, and PVC. PVC is used for underground cold water supply and irrigation pipes. Each of these three types use their own specific "glue" but they all do the same kind of joint. More specific to your question. Screw together unions are not what you want to use on your irrigation lines. There are a couple to connector than will work nicely and are simple to use. The URL below will take you to a site that has photos. These should be available at most any store that stockes PVC pipe. You will need to cut out the bad joint, use some short PVC pipe and regular couplers to get the pipe length restored before using this repair coupling. You will not have much chance of success using a plain coupler because the solvent sets up to quickly.
    http://www.dripworksusa.com/store/pvcrepair.php
  3. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    You really don't want PVC used in pressurized systems. If the pipe was distorted because of pressure and you sanded it down, even as a drainage pipe, it could have problems, especially if it is foam core pvc. You'll need to cut out a bigger section, then patch in new pieces.
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