Relocating drain! Look good?

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  1. MikeVila

    MikeVila New Member

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    I am installing a whirlpool with a different drain location than my previous corner tub in my manufactured home. The drain will only be about 36" away from original. Will this work. I have attached a drawing of my plan. If so when I cut into the 2" ABS will the pipe move enough laterally to slip the T in? Any transition needed from ABS to PVC. Someone had mentioned they thought you had to use a special glue?

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  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Will it work? Yes, if done correctly. Is it a correct connection? NO!
  3. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    It doesn't look like you have enough depth. You cannot use a Tee on it's back to connect a waste line like that.
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    Yes I don't have enough depth. Just got back from Lowes and got alot of my materials and unless it comes above my subfloor it won't fit underneath. Anything wrong with that? Why can't I use the Tee? If that isn't correct could you please tell me what is the correct way? Also: Can you not use an S trap for a tub? Tell me what I need to do and I will follow your orders!!:D
  5. MikeVila

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    I can rotate the T fitting and that should allow the room. I don't understand why it is "the wrong connection". Tell me the right way fellas. I am here to learn. I need to get my plumbing figured out so HELP a fella out.
  6. jimbo

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    A tee can only be used to connect a horizontal branch or trap arm to a VERTICAL waste pipe. Has to do with the sweep and clogging of the inlet. You need to use a wye and a 45.
  7. Redwood

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    or, a combo which would be a one piece version of a wye and 45...
  8. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    1, Your vent is horizontal
    2. To make the horizontal vent even somewhat acceptable it would have to be a wet vent for something else.
    3. As drawn you have an "S" trap which is not permitted for ANY fixture.
    4. However, depending on the plane you are drawing you could be showing a "P" trap, in which case the only concern is the type of fitting you are using to connect to the drain line.

    The above concerns are why it is not legal, permitted, or acceptable. But it will work, assuming you abide by #4 above, at least for a little while.
  9. MikeVila

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    It is a P trap in the drawing. S traps are not permitted? I have S traps all throughout my home. Isn't there a code that the drain has to be within like 3' of the vent? In which case it would be. Could you show me the correct connection and routing via a pic of some sort? I just want to do it right. I'm sure some would've cobbled it by now but I want to do it 1 time.
  10. MikeVila

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    With the above mentioned connections, would they fit under the floor? Or would I have to rotate them to the side for them to fit?
  11. MikeVila

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    So I would just use a reducer to go from my 1 1/2" P trap and go straight into the exhisting 2" drainline. Now for the vent. After I cut the drain line would I use the back half of the 2" drain line or just go from the vent going up the wall and get rid of the old T for the old trap and run new 1 1/2" pipe for the vent? Then would I use a Wye and tie into the drainline? Approximately where would I Wye into the drainline after the trap? I really appreciate the help. Picture is worth a thousand words. All of this would then be the "professional" way to go?
  12. MikeVila

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    How's this look?

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  13. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    By code you should not run it horizontally until it is above, (actually 6" above), the rim of the tub. How we would do it depends entirely on the existing construction of the house, something we cannot see without being there and not shown in the drawing. And might not be able to be shown so we can see what we need to.
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    That is how someone said they would do it with the layout I have. That is my plan then. Seems like that would be the only way to go.
  16. MikeVila

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    O.K. I still haven't gotten this plumbing job completed. I keep getting different stories on what is allowed. On the current setup I was gonna use wye's and was told no to use T's. Cut the wye,t combo out and installed a T and then someone said it had to be a Wye. This is what I have dry fit. I am gonna have the P trap drop down lower where it comes out of the trap and does a street 90 directly into the drain line. The vent will then come out of the top of the T and go to the vent stack at the wall. The current waste/overflow isn't the correct setup. It will be changed. Lord help me!!!:(

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  17. hj

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    The way you have it, it IS an "S" trap, but if you drop it down and go into the end of the tee it will be proper. It appears you have shot yourself in the foot with the water lines, because they appear to be EXACTLY where the trap will have to be when it is in the correct location. Now it seems you will have to make a circutious drain line to work around them.
  18. MikeVila

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    I didn't shoot myself lol, the lines were there, I didn't put them there lol. No it should be close but it will be just perfect amount of room to come down some. So your giving me approval to run my vent and glue it together? LOL. Don't see any problems?
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  19. Terry

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    You can't mix ABS and PBC,
    You can't use a santee on the horizontal
    The vent needs to be higher than the outlet for the trap arm,
    The water lines are in the way and need to be moved for the trap

    What was your question again?
  20. MikeVila

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    LOL, Am I being punked or what? Will this end? Why does one master plumber tell me something than another tells me something oppositte? This is getting crazy. :eek:

    If not use the san T should I use the Wye's then? Why am I getting multiple stories?

    The vent will be higher than the outlet of trap arm when I lower the trap.

    Water lines aren't in the way. If they do come close, tub can be shifted a little bit over away some. (they are below plumbing, pic don't really show it, bad angle I guess)


    AGAIN! Why am I getting told YES, NO, YES, NO? This is frustrating. Hard to learn when you get all this different info.
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