PRV Recommendations

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & ' started by jk60, Feb 13, 2006.

  1. jk60

    jk60 Engineer

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    I would like to replace my old discontinued Watts U5B PRV in the hope that it will alleviate the water noise problem I am having. What would you professionals recommend? Another Watts PRV such as the 25AUB or N35B, a Wilkins 600, or perhaps another brand? Thank you for the information.

    Jerry
  2. Cass

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    What noise are you talking about? Is the PRV making noise as the water flows through?
  3. jk60

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    There is a sound of rushing water whenever any faucet in the house is open. The noise appears to originate in the area around the PRV. The noise increases in volume with increased flow of water.
  4. Cass

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    Since you have a Watts I would try a Wilkins. I have noticed that some people with very high pressure (110+#) have some sort of noise to deal with. You could try and insulate around the PRV to reduce the noise but some will travel through the pipe.
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    We use Honeywell- Braukman, but it is more a matter of which one the supply house stocks.
  6. jk60

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    Thank you for the information. I think I will try a Wilkins this time around. The model 600 seems to have much better pressure fall off specs then the Watts 25AUB and slightly better then the Watts N35B. Hope it'll improve the noise issues. I think I will also replace the main shut off valve (gate valve) with a full port ball valve.

    Thanks again,

    Jerry
  7. jimbo

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    All will work fine. Based on my experience, the Honeywell Braukman will outlast the Wilkins or Watts by 5 to 10 years.
  8. jk60

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    I checked on the Honeywell Braukmann D05 valve on their website and then proceeded in trying to find an internet company that sells this regulator so that I can get an idea of its price. For the life of me I could not find a single internet company that carries this product. Can anybody throw me a few names of internet outfits where I might be able to checkout the pricing and perhaps order this regulator. My experience in buying from local plumbing supply houses (not Home Depot or Lowes) has not been good. Typically they are considerably more expensive then the "discount" places.

    PS - I even tried sending an e-mail to Honeywell Brauckmann using the url address they provided on their website for contact information. The e-mail came back as undeliverable.

    Thank you,

    Jerry
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2006
  9. Cass

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    Plumbing supply houses typically cater to plumbers and remodelers. When a DIY person comes in you are looking at list price most times. They know you will buy 1, and the plumber may buy 100 in a year.
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  12. jk60

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    Bob - Thank you for the information on the Conbraco 36H valve. I looked it up and interestingly even though Grainger lists it for $87.50 (3/4") in their catalog page, if you try to buy it, a different page with a price of $97.85 pops up. And this is for the standard version without a strainer. I also would have preferred a regulator with at least one union joint which is not an option on the Conbraco. Nevertheless something to think about. Still would like to get some information on the Honeywell Braukmann regulator. I saw Terry's web page on this valve, but there is no mention there of price or whether he sells it. I even tried sending an e-mail to Honeywell Brauckmann using the url address they provided on their website for contact information. The e-mail came back as undeliverable.

    Cass - I understand that the plumbing supply house will charge a DIY person list price which is why I try to avoid them if at all possible. As an example when I was shopping for an expansion tank I ended up paying about 35% less at a discount house then at the plumbing supply house.
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  13. jk60

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    Terry - Do you sell the Honeywell Braukmann D05 pressure regulators? If yes how do I go about getting a price for one of these babies (3/4")?

    Thanks,

    Jerry
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2006
  14. SteveW

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    I did a Google search and came up with State Supply -- they have a D05xxx (didn't write down the extra initials/numbers) for $38.
  15. jk60

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    Steve - Thanks for the info. One Honeywell Braukmann PRV is on its way.

    Jerry
  16. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Installation codes require at least a union on the outlet of the PRV, but I prefer to install them with two unions.
  17. SteveW

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    You're welcome!
    Good luck - I like HJ's idea of 2 unions...
    Steve
  18. jk60

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    This is how the regulator is described on the supplier website - 3/4"NPT female union inlet x outlet connections. I interpret this as having one union connection but on the inlet. The Watts PRV I have right now is similar in that it also has a union connection on the inlet.

    Just called the supplier and they confirmed that it is a union connection on one side and a threaded connection on the other. Can I just put a nipple in the threaded connection and add my own union?
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2006
  19. rshackleford

    rshackleford New Member

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    Check out Cla-Valve. They make a lot of municipal stuff.
  20. jk60

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    Thank you for the information. I already ordered a Honeywell Braukmann PRV.

    Jerry
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