I normally run along a wall, and then jump up and into the bay spaces between floor joists.
That way I'm not boxing in the center of the room, but along a wall. They do that for heating ducts all the time,and I do it for plumbing too.
I don't cross joists with 3" pipes.
And if they are only 2x8, I don't cross even with 2"
Waste grades down at 1/4" per foot, which makes running with joists leaving you will even less room for drop.
Many times in dining rooms we will box out around the room on all four walls.
We may be hiding ducts or pipes on some of the walls, but if we box all four walls at the ceiling, it looks like we planned it.
That way I'm not boxing in the center of the room, but along a wall. They do that for heating ducts all the time,and I do it for plumbing too.
I don't cross joists with 3" pipes.
And if they are only 2x8, I don't cross even with 2"
Waste grades down at 1/4" per foot, which makes running with joists leaving you will even less room for drop.
Many times in dining rooms we will box out around the room on all four walls.
We may be hiding ducts or pipes on some of the walls, but if we box all four walls at the ceiling, it looks like we planned it.