Old toilet works but inefficient

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by lisapaloma, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. lisapaloma

    lisapaloma New Member

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    I'm renting a house here in Central America and the toilet in the main bathroom is problematical. The brand is Mancesa and it reminds me of toilets in the U.S. from thirty-or-so years ago. When you flush it, a lot of water flows into the bowl before anything else starts to happen, and the water level in the bowl rises. Then, when it finally starts to go down, it often goes slow enough that stuff is left in the bowl after it stops flushing. Sometimes it works, and with liquid waste, it's never a problem, but with solid waste it often takes two or three flushes to clear. Any suggestions? If I owned the house, I'd replace it in a heartbeat, but with what I'm paying in rent, I don't feel like doing the landlord any favors.
  2. wjcandee

    wjcandee Wise One

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    Mancesa is a brand owned by Corona, a Columbia-based manufacturer of china products. They own Mansfield in the US.

    Some older Mancesa toilets don't have a siphon jet (the 1"-ish hole through which water flows to push stuff out of the toilet), and instead just run water into the bowl around the rim. If yours does have a siphon jet, make sure it isn't clogged (rubber gloves on, finger in hole to make sure not clogged). I dramatically-improved the flush on an old American Standard that way. If no siphon jet, you're stuck with the flush. Is the water level in the tank where it should be (i.e. are you getting enough water and water pressure to do a good flush?). See if the water level is adjusted to where it is marked on the tank (or 1/4" below the top of the overflow riser on the flush valve). That's all I can think of without seeing the thing.

    You also might give it a good plunge to see if there's anything stuck in there affecting the flush. The problem also might not be in the toilet itself, but that's not anything you yourself are likely to be able to do anything about.

    Maybe you tell the landlord that the toilet isn't working properly in the master bathroom (see -- not toilet itself sucks but toilet "not working properly") and he needs to send a plumber around to get it working right, and you need a working toilet for what you're paying in rent. That would be my first approach after trying the limited self-help above.


    Hope this helps.
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2012
  3. lisapaloma

    lisapaloma New Member

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    Thank you very much! I'll try it!
  4. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You can also make sure the the rinse holes under the the rim are not blocked. A coat hanger or wire is good for this.
  5. lisapaloma

    lisapaloma New Member

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    I already took a good look, and unless it's hidden, there's no siphon jet. I'm going to get a plunger and try that, as well as checking the holes. The water here does tend to leave mineral deposits, so that's a possibility.

    Thanks!
  6. wjcandee

    wjcandee Wise One

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    Terry has some great photos posted here of stuff he has found caught inside the toilet when pulling up clogged or poorly functioning toilets, like tin soldiers and such. So you never know what might be involved in a rental home...
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