New to plumbing. Watch out! What would you do in this situation?

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & ' started by Living_Legend, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. Living_Legend

    Living_Legend New Member

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    Hello,

    I'm new here. Name Mike. Need your help. I am not a plumber at all. I have remodeled my kitchen from top to bottom and last thing I need to do is instal the new deep sink.... which has caused me problems. It is an old house. What would you do here, i am lost. I wish i could just add a 3 inch extension to the black pipes but they don't make them. Only cornering pieces can screw on.

    What would you do? Thanks in advance!

    Mike

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  2. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    The only thing that should thread together is the two sides of the trap, but you have the entire trap installed upside down. If it is cemented in, the easiest thing to do will be to cut out the sanitary tee and start over with new components.
  3. Living_Legend

    Living_Legend New Member

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    This was done before I moved in to this house. it is cemented in. the piece I am holding in my hand is the only thing I removed. If you look at the top of the pipe going into the way the piece goes into the wall and the other piece is right against it. I have no idea how i am going to cut that out and replace it.

    Is cutting it off from the main pipe then capping it off and then starting over from the main pipe lower under the sink an option? The owner before me did everything wrong, electrical, plumbing, walls, and everything. I think he guesses as he went so I cant be too mad at him because I am doing the same with some research. He probably didn't have forums and YouTube like I have.
  4. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You need to continue with the vent.

    The p-trap you have, because it's upside down, creates an S trap. Since the vent is lower than the trap, it can siphon itself dry. The trap arm for the trap needs to be at the same level as the vent, not above it.
  5. nhmaster3015

    nhmaster3015 Master Plumber

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    Because there's no pipe exposed above the sanitary tee, the only option I see is to open up the wall and start cutting.
  6. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    A plumber would have the tools, and experience, (it takes both), to remove that "improperly installed" elbow and make the proper connection.
  7. nhmaster3015

    nhmaster3015 Master Plumber

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    Its ABS and old ABS at that. The chances of chasing the pipe out of the fitting are pretty slim. Worth a shot but I'd be prepared to do some cutting.
  8. Living_Legend

    Living_Legend New Member

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    Well I called a plumber. :) I hate to give up but this is important and I dont want to cause more problems. I have done everything else myself. I lost this round.

    How much is a normal price for just this? Cut pipe, new pipe, and to the drain?

    Also I planned to do the faucet myself after this is done....

    I live in Maryland if that matters.
  9. Living_Legend

    Living_Legend New Member

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    Attached is a picture of what i have done so far. This is my first time doing a kitchen.

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  10. Living_Legend

    Living_Legend New Member

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    actually me and my brother in-law will attemp it this weekend. going to take the entire back of the sink out and start over. If we figure it out i will cancel the plumber i set up for next week.
  11. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    It would have been a lot easier to correct before you put the cabinet and counter in.
  12. Living_Legend

    Living_Legend New Member

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    you are right. I just didn't know any better.
  13. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    If you are undermounting a 10" deep basin, you should drop the trap arm to 16" off the floor. That gives you the option to use a disposer later.
  14. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    If you called me, I might NOT "Cut pipe, new pipe to drain", but rather just remove the pipe from the tee and put a new piece in.
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