New shower thread?

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  1. Vegas_sparky

    Vegas_sparky Eat kitty

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    I filled the pan again yesterday to inner edge of curb. Air bubbles percolated in a couple of spots on the floor. I need to get a test ball to check it properly now. Are the bubbles normal?

    I'm not a pro. I'm not an engineer. I am not AN ANIMAL! LMAO



    As far as coverage, the elephant Lecter Redgard mask of shame is way thicker than spec, and color is identical. Corners where applied thick are also the same.

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    I may go one more coat, but this stuff seems to get brittle as it gets built up.
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  2. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple I love these ACO Shower Drains - Best in Class

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    I did work out the coverage via footage, and its damn close to right on the money. Another coat won't hurt.

    The orange stuff (Cel phone cam color is off) is the dried RG pulled from the tray liner. I compared that to what was on wall.

    I don't know what rubbing away the bubbles means. I'm assuming there are small air pockets beneath the surface. I was standing on it all weekend, had step stools on it, and don't have any cracks. I want to make sure the bubbles aren't a sign of structural weakness/voids.
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  5. eurob

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    Nice mask you got there Sparky . You definitely find new applications for the Redgard . I bet with another coat you will get close the the pvc liner .;)
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    Do you use liquid waterproofing often? With everyone touting sheet membranes, I'm still worried about longevity and eventual leaks. I'm half tempted to start over.
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    Redgard works well when used properly. But, it is not a product where more is better! IT is only tested and approved when it is installed properly, and that includes thickness. TO do it properly, you really need a wet film gauge to verify you're getting the proper thickness. You can't check afterwards, because generally anyways, to do that, you'd have to poke a hole in it...not the best thing for a waterproofing membrane! Wet film gauges are cheap - anyone that uses a liquid applied membrane should have one. The biggest issue with liquid membranes is uneven coverage and pinhole leaks. A sheet membrane is more forgiving, and with the required overlap or seaming, there's some redundancy there (eg., on Kerdi, a 2" overlap on a seam is more forgiving than about 50mils of liquid membrane you may not spread out properly).
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    Yes , I also use liquids . But if you are worried about longevity and eventual leaks , why didn't you go with a sheet membrane ?
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    Update... I picked out an 18x18 travertine that matched what I will have on the shower floor.

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    I laid most of the floor last weekend, and will break out the wet saw this weekend.

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    The tile got dropped here in Vegas this afternoon.

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    I was going to cover the counter and bench tops with the 18x18 tile. I would have accepted that. The tile was a gift, so I didn't want to take advantage of the situation. Well, the guys cut me solid travertine counter and bench tops. Unbelievable.

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    I gotta get this stuff moved 250 miles now, and I'll have some questions for you pros. John, Roberto, where'd you go?
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    The first counter on the pic looks like a disaster waiting to happen ........ Usually we use a thicker piece of styrofoam than the bullnose in between the slabs , to prevent the bullnose from the 2 slabs to touch while in transport .

    Great gift Vegas !
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    Thats how it arrived. I resecured everything. The smallest piece got moved to the back of my SUV, and I added a moving blanket between the other two slabs. I hate transporting this stuff.
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    " Soft '' material . Probably the roads at your location are much better than what we have here . The rack helps a lot during transport .
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    Roberto, I've never set a solid shower bench top. Thinset, or medium mortar? I know I can get 100% coverage with thinset. The framing is solid. John drilled that point home.
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    Medium bed if build up is necessary -- slope or leveling of more than 1/4 thick needed-- . Thin set if less than 1/4 thick . 2 persons for the installation of the bench is a must . I would also use white with notches on both surfaces -- stone and bench -- .

    If you have access to X 77 from Ardex you will not regret it .
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    All the material made it up safely. Slope for bench is built into framing, so no need for any build up. Thinset it is.

    Thanks, Roberto. :)
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    :)Glad to hear it .:)

    You may need some blocking -- from the bench to the opposite wall -- if the slab is slightly sliding after installation -- thin set use -- . And this can happen depending of the consistency of the thin-set . Use the recommended proportions from the mixing section on the packaging bag .

    Flat , level and proper slope -- top of the bench area -- are a must for a thin set use . :)

    Did I mention to check the layout -- tiles on walls -- before installing the bench ? If 1/2 or 3/4 is needed -- raising the bench top -- to accommodate the design , you should make the adjustments before you install the slab on the bench .

    From the pics -- bench between walls -- , the slab should be about 1/4 to 3/8 shorter than the total distance from wall to wall -- filling the equal gaps after -- . You don't want to find how hard to install it is , if you have an exact -- no gap --measurement .
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    Didn't even get to setting the bench top this weekend. I finished off the shower floor,

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    and set the rest of the bathroom floor, built the lower counter, dry set those tops, and shot lines all over the room. Layout is done.

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    I'm not setting any wall tile until I get a bigger wet saw. I have to have a 10" saw with a mitre head to do this right. I've made it this far with an MK 470 that I've had for 10+ years.
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    Looking good Vegas . :)

    I see you also did the grout on the shower floor . Nice . ;)

    Are you going to do the holes for the sink and faucet after you installed the tops ? I don't see any in your photos .
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    Thanks again, Roberto. That floor was the hardest thing I've ever tiled. Im glad its done. :)

    For the sink top I'll cut the holes, or take it back to Vegas and have the pros do it. I haven't even decided on a sink yet. This whole project has been on the fly. LOL
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    I know what you mean ;) The hardest I think ....decisions ....decisions .....decisions :)
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