New American Standard Cadet 3 elongated is 3" off the wall

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by HC, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. HC

    HC New Member

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    Hi,
    My newly installed toilet is 3" off the wall and I am trying to decide if the look will drive me crazy.
    There appears to be a joist very near to the drain. Would I be better off with a different toilet? Is there any "play" in the installation of this toilet. Thank you in advance for any advice. This forum has been extremely helpful in the past.
  2. shacko

    shacko Master Plumber-Gas Fitter

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    It's simple, someone roughed it in wromg, unless you change the toilet flange there is little you can do with it. The only way to fix that is to change the joist location. If you leave it 3in. off the wall it will drive you nuts! :eek:
  3. krow

    krow Plumber

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    With the Cadet 3, what you see, is what you get. , Unless you re-plumb the floor flange

    There is no play.

    Toto, however, will have different options to get the toilet closer to the wall.
  4. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    [​IMG]
    Toto on the Left and A/S Cadet on the right.
    Notice how much leg space you can get with a Toto compared to a Cadet 3
    Now we compare the leg room.
    On the left, the TOTO Soiree with 14" Unift adpapter.
    On the right, the Cadet 3
    The TOTO wins the Race for Space.

    Just so you know, we took out the Cadet and replaced it with a Toto.
    The Cadet takes up more space in a bathroom.
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2010
  5. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    Maybe you installed a 10" rough in toilet on a 12" RI flange...check the box...
  6. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    There are two tanks for the Cadet, the thin "Compact" tank is meant for a 10" rough.
  7. HC

    HC New Member

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    Thank you for all your time. I double checked the box and it is a 12" rough. My husband mentioned a "curved" flange as a possible solution?
  8. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    Sure, if you want to use a standard 12" rough toilet, just move the drain in the floor.

    For the same money, you could also get something that works in that location, and have an upgrade too.

    For what you are asking about, the offset flange, you will need to pull the toilet, and see how much of the floor joist will need to be removed so you can squeeze 1.5" more inches out.
    It's a lot of work so for so little gain.
    I'm guessing that it was even slightly doable, it would have been done that way the first time.

    My guess on having a plumber move a flange 1.5"?
    $300 to $1500
    So much depends on your situation, and how much the plumber will know, and how much you will pay for that knowledge.

    I'm not a big fan of moving a flange, unless you can easily bring it exactly to the correct spot.
    It's just too easy to move a bowl with other brands.
    Moving a bowl takes me 10 minutes
    Moving a flange can take hours.
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