Need adivce on replacing washer shutoff valves

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & ' started by appdude, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    Well its happening once again but now its worse. The valves for my washing machine are leaking. But I noticed they look they are threaded/screwed on to the pipe. However there is a soldered threaded piece soldered to the copper pipe. Can these be unscrewed? Or soldered off? Could someone please tell me how to remove this?:confused:

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  2. that10pin

    that10pin New Member

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    Where are the valves leaking? Is it at the solder joint or at where it screws in.
  3. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You may be able to tighten up the bonnet nuts at the stem.

    Or if you replace, you can heat them and slip them off the copper.
  4. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    It's leaking at the stem, I already tried to tighten and the bonnet won't budge. Also do I have to get a new threaded piece? Or can i just re use the old one?
  5. jim mills

    jim mills New Member

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    Should be able to re-use the threaded adapter. Get ball valves next time. You can get an adapter that screws into the FIP threads on the ball valve for the hookup hoses.

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  6. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    You may want to post a better picture where the threads meet the copper.
    It looks like you have an outside thread with inside sweat fitting.
  7. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Those are male hose faucets soldered to a copper line. The thread is part of the faucet so it will come off when you remove the faucet from the copper. You probably WILL want to solder female threaded adapters onto the copper then screw the new hose faucets into them.
  8. jim mills

    jim mills New Member

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    It that's the case, why not just replace the packing?
  9. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    I think i'm understanding this now, The "threaded" piece is literately in the valve and can't be physically unscrewed. Also if that being the case then I will replace the packing. Cant I just get the new bonnet/packing from a new valve that is exactly the same?
  10. ImOld

    ImOld New Member

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    This is a perfect example of what the average person cannot know.

    Plumbers will put together any pieces-parts that fit together regardles of whether these parts were intended to be used that way.

    It looks like you have a solid faucet intended to be threaded into a 3/4" fitting.

    It just so happens a 1/2" copper pipe will fit inside the threaded part and can be soldered there perfectly.

    Done all the time because it saves on carrying many more parts.

    Of course the picture is not detailed enough for me to be 100% sure, so...........................

    Carry on!
  11. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    il try to post a clearer picture but here is the valve i plan on taking the bonnet/packing/washers from

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  12. Reach4

    Reach4 Active Member

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    To take a better picture, use a camera and put it into "macro" mode. That mode is often represented by a tulip icon. [​IMG] Shoot a side view.
  13. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    Okay here is a better pic, My camera is acting up badly

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  14. Reach4

    Reach4 Active Member

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    That confirms HJ, and I think ImOld is sure now too.
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  15. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades

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    That looks like one of those 1 fits all that is threaded on the inside and out.
  16. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    Yay the new valves came, now how do i remove the bonnets. They are literately impossible to remove.....if the new ones are like this, then i imagine what the old ones will be like....
  17. jim mills

    jim mills New Member

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    Bet this guy could do it!
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  18. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades

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    Two wrenches should do it.

    Offset the wrenches by just a little and use both hands around both wrenches to line them up to break it loose.


    Good Luck.
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  19. appdude

    appdude New Member

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    I do use those wrenches, both of em.


    Now another idea popped into my head. Sharkbites have always been my friend in when it came to plumbing. Now below i listed some things that came to me when i was reading through the posts.

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    Now i was wondering if i could screw on my new valve and cut off the old ones with a tube cutter and push on the pipes.

    Here is a more visual example of what i mean


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    Is this a good idea? Or should i stick to switching the stems. Another thing is the lack of space to cut the pipe. Can i still cut it?
  20. DonL

    DonL Jack of all trades

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    Have you tried Opening the old Valves all the way, then tightening the stem nut ?

    Sometimes that will make them stop leaking. If it is a stem leak.
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