Moving Into A Well Fed House

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  1. Shoe6674

    Shoe6674 New Member

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    Hello All,
    I am getting ready to move into a home in a few weeks that I just had tested for inorganic. I am still working on getting a bacterial test done through the local Health Department. This house has nothing in terms of a pressure tank and/or filtering. I am currently in KY and the house is in NC, so any info I have I have been collaborating with an in-law down there to get. I will be heading down on the weekend of the forth and will hopefully be able to gather the actual flow rate from the well along with motor size etc.

    I am looking for help on what equipment to get to filter/ soften the water. There are two bathrooms total, and a sink in the kitchen, all on the first floor of the house which is approx 50 to 60 ft from the well. I am looking for low maintenance equipment. Any Guidance and/or help would be greatly appreciated.

    Well depth is 215 ft.
    Level is around 150 when full.
    Casings size 6â€
    No pump info except it is submersible.
    I was told GPM is 1 ( I am thinking this is in terms of well recovery rate.)
    Inorganic Test results:
    All measurements are in mg/L ; sample was taken at the well.
    Arsenic .022
    Barium <.1
    Cadmium <.001
    Calcium 140
    Chloride 210
    Chromium <.01
    Copper <.05
    Fluoride .37
    Iron .99
    Lead <.005
    Magnesium 22
    Manganese .94
    PH 7.4
    Selenium <.005
    Silver <.05
    Sodium .73
    Sulfate 10.00
    Total Alkalinity 296
    Total Hardness 440
    Zinc 1.10

    I was contemplating going ahead and shocking the system while I am down there, but I will probably be re-doing all the plumbing anyway which leads me to waiting until then.
  2. ditttohead

    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    Your Arsenic level is over double the EPA MCL.

    Thanks for getting a proper test done, this makes designing a system a lot easier.

    The MCL for Arsenic is 10 PPB, you are at 22 PPB. The water should not be used for drinking purposes until this is taken care of.

    A standard softener should do you just fine for the hardness and small amount of iron. How many people are going to be living here? We need to know that to size the capacity. Be sure irrigation is seperated from the house water.
  3. Shoe6674

    Shoe6674 New Member

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    There will be five people full time, plus the occasional visits from family.
  4. ditttohead

    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    My personal recommendation would be 2.5 Cu. Ft. 7000SXT softener, and a GFH or titanium oxide based arsenic removal system after the softener. Other methods will work, but this will rpobably be the most economical.
  5. Shoe6674

    Shoe6674 New Member

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    Thanks dittohead, do you have any recommended sites to purchase these?
  6. ditttohead

    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    pm sent,

    I would recommend staying away from companies that work out of their garage, or motorhome. Buy from a company that has a physical address, not just a UPS box.
  7. Mikey

    Mikey Aspiring Old Fart, EE, computer & networking geek

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    Must be a pressure tank somewhere, unless this is a new house with a newly-drilled well.
  8. Shoe6674

    Shoe6674 New Member

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    Working off what I was told it does not, but I will look when I go down next weekend. The house/well was put in over 34 years ago. Very little maintenance was ever done, probably the first time it has been tested since it was put in, if it was tested then.
  9. Shoe6674

    Shoe6674 New Member

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    Thanks again dittohead.
  10. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    It could be a VFD pump. Their pressure tank is so small that they are easily missed.
  11. Mikey

    Mikey Aspiring Old Fart, EE, computer & networking geek

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    I'd be concerned about capacity. If the pump is at, say, 200' and the water's at 150' on a good day, they've only got around 90 gallons available before the well runs dry (and an hour and a half to recover those 90 gallons), so some intermediate storage is a requirement. With 5 people full time, they're looking at 300gpd minimum, and if everybody showers at the same time, they could be in big trouble. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd want the biggest storage/pressure tank I could get, and would consider a large unpressurized cistern as well. I have friends in NoCal in a similar situation who use a 10,000 gallon well-fed cistern to smooth demands on the well.
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