Move intake valve for Toto Carlyle- how hard?

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  1. 2sleepy

    2sleepy New Member

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    I ordered a Toto Carlyle and it appears that our intake valve is about 3/4 to 1 inch to far to the center. I guess the valve will need to be relocated and I will have to call a plumber to do it- any idea how long this job should take a plumber? Seems that if I don't have some idea of the difficulty of the job I end up paying alot more $$ than if I am somewhat informed.
  2. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    It depends on how exact your rough-in is...the toilet doesn't actually run all the way back to the wall, there is a gap there. I think they make an angle stop that may allow you to shut it off without doing anything else. Measure from the bolts holding your current toilet in (or where they'd go if there isn't any) to the wall, then search out the specification sheet on the toilet to see where it will fall. It does make it easier if it is out where specified, but you may have enough room with what you have without doing anything. It might be hard to turn the handle because you have only a little clearance...
  3. Peanut9199

    Peanut9199 Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale

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    Not sure is Dahl is available in your area, but they make a "Skirted" toilet valve.
  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    valve

    We cannot tell you what is involved in moving the valve, but if you "pay more than you should" it will be because you hired the wrong plumber, not because you did not know what he was going to do.
  5. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Also, since the back of that toilet is not vertical, it curves, it depends on the height of the supply, if you are lucky, you won't have to move it.

    If the pipe is anchored to a stud, the plumer would have to tear out more drywall and drill. If it is anchored to a cross brace (if it is anchored at all!), it might be a 15-minute job....you won't know until you open the wall if you find out it will or will not fit as is. the suggested placement gives you clearance to easily get your hand around the knob on the shutoff...so, as close as you indicate, there may be enough as is.
  6. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    With the Carlyle, the shutoff needs to be located at least 7", center to center.
    If it's less than 7", it can be moved. With copper pipe, the shutoff can be removed, and a small section of 1/2" copper can be soldered on with a sweat 90 el.

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  7. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Peanut9199 Customer Service Manager Plumbing Wholesale

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