Moen Posi Temp Valve

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  1. winger27

    winger27 New Member

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    I am installing a Moen shower/tub valve into a rough opening. I got where to install it as far as the depth goes. My question is why do I need to cut a 4 1/2" hole. The center cartridge is all that sticks out through the wall. I'm not using the temp stops and do have access from behind. If needed how do I waterproof around it? Thanks
     
  2. Terry

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    You need a big enough hole to install the valve plate. there are two screws that are at a diangle.
    You also need space above the cartridge clip. If you don't have enough height above that, you will never be able to change a leaking cartridge. Too many times I come back after tile and some joker has tiled tightly around the stem. Then it's break out the tile bits and chip away to get some space. :(

    The part that seals, is the plate, which after installation has a bead of caulking around it. There is a little notch at the bottom of the plate. Don't fill that in. That's to prevent whatever water that may get by, a place to safely go.

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    See how long the clip is? That entire clip needs to be removed.
     
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  4. winger27

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    So your saying as long as there is access to the cartridge clip the hole serves no other purpose? Is the chalking around the trim plate all I need to seal so water does not get behind my tile?
     
  5. Terry

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    The plate covers the hole. There should never be an issue with that.
     
  6. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Plates that fit entirely outside the wall do not need a large opening. Some plates recess in to the wall and opening has to be large enough to accept them.
     
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