Jeff in Seattle
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Recently, I had to cut in a new branch for a bar sink off my 3/4" copper mains that run from one side of my basement to the other. In addition, I have shutoffs and drain plugs for both the hot and cold mains. Further, I have shutoffs for every branch to each room/appliance. Last time I had cut in a branch was long ago with no issue. 3 years ago, I remodeled my master bath and added a Moen 3570 Valve (w/balancing spool and stops). My previous shower valve (and my other shower valve circa 1991) did not have a balancing spool).
When I shut the hot main and opened the drain, the water (and pressure), kept coming. I finally isolated to the master bath branch, and then further isolated to the shower valve. Closing the cold stop on the shower valve, and the water and pressure ceased on the hot main. I deduced that the cold water, which was still on, was passing through the shower valve (I assume through the spooler cartridge) over to the hot feed - and then back down to the hot main via the master branch. This was easily remedied by shutting off the master bath feeds.
However, this was quite annoying to say the least and defeats the purpose of my main shutoffs. This leads me to my question: Can the hot or cold feed pass through/across the Moen 3570 shower valve to the other feed? If so, is this "normal"?!!? This is with the mixing valve in the off position of course and one feed on and pressurized and the other feed off and open to the air.
Thanks,
Jeff in Seattle
When I shut the hot main and opened the drain, the water (and pressure), kept coming. I finally isolated to the master bath branch, and then further isolated to the shower valve. Closing the cold stop on the shower valve, and the water and pressure ceased on the hot main. I deduced that the cold water, which was still on, was passing through the shower valve (I assume through the spooler cartridge) over to the hot feed - and then back down to the hot main via the master branch. This was easily remedied by shutting off the master bath feeds.
However, this was quite annoying to say the least and defeats the purpose of my main shutoffs. This leads me to my question: Can the hot or cold feed pass through/across the Moen 3570 shower valve to the other feed? If so, is this "normal"?!!? This is with the mixing valve in the off position of course and one feed on and pressurized and the other feed off and open to the air.
Thanks,
Jeff in Seattle