Looks like a delta 600 - but not - any ideas? need new valve

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  1. personalt

    personalt New Member

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    Any idea what type of faucet this is? I thought it was a delta 600 or similar. My original problem was handle broken and trim scratched. I bought a delta 600 kit thinking I would use the handle and and the trim and save the internal parts from a later day

    • The handle goes up/down/left right like a delta 600.
    • There is some markings on the copper trim from 'Ace' as in ace hardware I assume. But no markings that I could find that could indicate original brand. I am assuming the previous owner replaced the trim with trim from ACE.
    • stem that goes in to the handle is much thicker then delta 600 and takes a screw hole in the the center of the handle rather then a screw that applies pressure to side of 'arm'
    • 'cap' is different thread then a delta. It looks to be the same size but it is not. When you attempt to screw it in the size is slightly different or has a slightly thread. Looks like it might fit if you didnt care if you cross threaded it :)
    • I started to pull the valve and it separated in half, the back half was plastic. The back half had two holes and the springs with washers in them. Holes were horizontal in orientation. Kinda like what I have seen in other faucets as part of the brass valve.

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  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    If the stem has "diamond" shape to it and uses a plastic handle, then it could be a Delta model 602.
  3. personalt

    personalt New Member

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    thanks.. I dont think it is delta 602 either though..
    • the stem is round, just bigger then the delta 600 & 602
    • the delta 602 like the delta appears to have small tubes connecting the rear part of the valve body to the front. Ie the part you worry about snapping when tristing off the cpa. this valve is not like that, the body is one piece.
    • the stem doesnt connect to ball. the stem swivels and pushes a peice of plastic up/down/left/right. that plastic is trapezoidal in shape has two holes that line up with the holes/springs/washers that are normally in the back brass part of the valve body. However on this faucet the springs sit in a plastic seat that sides inside the brass valve body.
    maybe I need to pop the valve off today and take a picture.
  4. johnjh2o1

    johnjh2o1 Plumbing Contractor for 49 years

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  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    The Valley, at least the ones I have seen, use a small stem just like the Delta, and do not hae a screw into the stem to hold the handle. I have never seen a pressure balanced Valley, but it might have a cartridge such as you describe.
  6. personalt

    personalt New Member

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    I think you hit the jackpot - it looks very much like
    http://www.plumbingsupply.com/images/cartridge-1964.jpg

    In reality the worst parts are the bonnet nut and the sleeve as they are all scratched and pitted. a set of springs and seals is really all I think the valve needs.
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