Kohler Cimarron Question

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by Starwarsith88, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    Hey guys, my grandparents are looking to get a new Kohler Cimarron toilet. I know GoKohlerGo will probably be the first to answer on this question but the tank model number is K-4167-0 and the bowl is K-4347-0. And I was wondering, I looked on Kohler's website and it said aquapiston flush technology, does this mean Class 5 or Class 6? I heard the class 5's aren't as good. I mean then you might as well get a Highline Classic then. Also, is this video down below a class 6 cimarron? Thanks! :)

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  2. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm thinking class five, which over the last few years has the improved bowl rinse.
    It's very similar to the Highline gravity model.

    GoKohlerGo doesn't have a Kohler. I think he bought an American Standard Champion that he intends to install one day. Right now it's sitting in his brothers bedroom.
  3. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    He does have a cimarron. Also, does the class 6 flush better than the class 5 overall? Not including bowl wash but just flushing waste, does it do about the same? And it's weird because I go on Kohler's website and if I look under wellworth or highline classic and it says class 5, that is strange.
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  4. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    I have a Cimarron and a Wellworth. The Champion is for outside testing in the summer.
  5. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    Have you used them yet?

    My daughter has the Cimmarron one-piece installed at here place.

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    K-3828 Koher One-Piece Cimarron toilet
  6. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    Yes, of course. Had it and have been using it for over a year. it is a 2-piece Class Six. No clogs at all on this thing!
  7. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    It says Class 5, but it is actually Class 6 for the K-3589 and the K-3609. The bowl wash and bulk waste removal seem to be a bit better.
  8. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    That is a Class 6.
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  9. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    So basically the one im looking at isn't? :( thats a bummer.
  10. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    The round bowl Cimarrons aren't, sadly.
  11. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    NOOOO! Do they make any class 6 round bowls, and is the Class 5 still a very good flush?
  12. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    They don't make any Class Six round bowl models of any kind, but the Class Five still is good.
  13. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    If I think the Class 5 round does good in my grandparents, I might look to replace the TOTO with a Class 6 cimarron since I can put in an elongated in. Also thanks for the info!
  14. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    You will never regret getting a Cimarron.
  15. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    Good news! My grandparents ordered the Cimarron today! It's coming in tuesday! Also the cimarron is replacing an ingenium wellworth. Also, what flush technology is on your wellworth?
  16. wjcandee

    wjcandee Wise One

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    Why would anybody want to replace a perfectly-good Toto with a Kohler? This "class" silliness is ALL MARKETING, kids. Flush "technology"? Ain't no "technology" in that Ingenium flush. Again, silliness.
  17. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    No, the Kohler is equal in quality and performance if not better. It is nowhere near silliness.
  18. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    Awesome! Your grandparents will be very happy, guaranteed. My Wellworth is a 2012 and has the Class 5 technology.
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  19. Starwarsith88

    Starwarsith88 DIY kid who loves toilets

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    does that one have the improved class 5 flush? Also, why don't you do some flushing videos of it?
  20. GoKohlerGo

    GoKohlerGo Brand New Plumber

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    I will do some of the Cimarron, but cant of the Wellworth because I haven't installed it yet. What would you like me to flush?
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