Kitchen and bath sink to 3" waste line

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & ' started by VT David, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. VT David

    VT David New Member

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    Scenario: 3" drain that will connect to 1st floor toilet. kitchen and bathroon sink upstream from the 3" waste line. No disposal, dishwasher to be installed. Kitchen and bath 1 1/2" drains are vented at each location.

    Best connection is:

    A. Connect kitchen and bath with 1 1/2" 'Y' then run single 1 1/2" line to 3" drain connecting in a 3 X 3 X 1 1/2 T after toilet 90 deg. Toilet waste would then be in the 3" line before sink drain connection to the 3" sewer line.

    OR

    B. Extend 3" waste line beyond the toilet, connecting the toilet with a T, then connect the 1 1/2" bath and kitchen sink lines to the 3" sewer line.

    Runs: From kitchen to Kit/bath 1 1/2" T connection would be 6 1/2'.
    From bath sink to Kit/Bath 1 1/2" T would be 5 1/2'
    Kit/Bath 1 1/2" T to 3" Y connectionis less than 2'
    Toilet waste flange to vertical waste sewer is 3 1/2'

    All runs will have 1/4" per ft slope.

    Thanks you all for your time monitoring these forums and your excellent advise.

    Thank you,
    VT David

    formerly of NH

    Diagrammed PIC

    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o140/BreezyVT/Drain2.jpg
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2007
  2. solsacre

    solsacre Plumber

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    alright.... alot of that depends on local codes.... but I would never run a kitchen line less than 2". It's easy to pay a plumber (tell him or her what you want) an hour ($70?) to give you good local advice.

    good luck

    dances-with-pumps
  3. VT David

    VT David New Member

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    This is a modular home and the kitchen line through the wass to the basemet where it will connect is 1 1/2". Should I reun 2 " from there.

    Building codes; none around here! Which is why i would like to know best practice on this design. Thanks
  4. Randyj

    Randyj Master Plumber

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    My little brain will not picture all of that at one time. I need a picture/drawing. Doodle one with "paint" then post it to photobucket.com and put it on here. My opinion, and what I've learned by reading this board is that the line to a shower or washing machine should be 2", the stand pipe for the washing machine could be 1 1/2". A tub is okay with 1 1/2". I'd question whether or not you could run all together on the same 1 1/2" line before going into a tee on 3". It would work if you didn't release water in too many at the same time... that's why you need to run them into a bigger line. As for where the tee in the 3" needs to be I don't know that it matters, all are going to the same place.
  5. VT David

    VT David New Member

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  6. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Kitchen drain lines should be 2"...
  7. markts30

    markts30 Commercial Plumber

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    Try something like this....

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  8. markts30

    markts30 Commercial Plumber

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    Or if you add a second waste for the lav...

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  9. Randyj

    Randyj Master Plumber

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    Gotta get me one of them fancy programs like that so I can draw some purdy pictures too!
  10. VT David

    VT David New Member

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    ThankYou

    That is not only a pretty picture but exactly what I need to do to plumb the drains, easily and effectively.

    Thanks you for your help

    David
  11. markts30

    markts30 Commercial Plumber

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    Note: just make sure you include the test T for a cleanout over the sanT for the toilet - there has to be a full sized cleanout for the 3" line...
    If you don't want to put it there, you will have to re-configure the piping to locate one elsewhere...
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