Just a few water softener questions...

Discussion in 'Water Softener Forum, problems, installation and r' started by jkats, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. lifespeed

    lifespeed Member

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  2. ditttohead

    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    Reminds me of an episode of "My Name is Earl". Randy claims he would be great on the debate team because he can disagree with anything anyone else says.

    And yes, Nelsen does say the same thing, please do your research. Nelsen doesnt bother with residential flow recommendations, they assume most professionals understand the practical limits of equipment sizing and application. Their entire commercial line has recommended minimum and maximum flows. You ask for proof from Watts or Nelsen, I show you proof, the proof is wrong, sigh.

    A 4 cu. ft. system should work fine but will be outside of the engineering specifications for many residential applications. A properly sized twin alternating system would be a better fit. Not sure why this has turned into a multi-page discussion again.
  3. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    I don't see any confusion or ball busting on my part, just ditto and lifespeed's, because I have never had a customer suffer from too low flow or channeling problems.

    And I see you saying that you haven't either but, now ditto says downflow doesn't have channeling and that channeling isn't the problem blah blah blah... So why does he insist that low flow is a problem, in you opinion of course?
  4. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    Damn, you finally got it right! Nelsen does not have minimum flow rates for residential but do for their commercial softeners.

    And a 4.0 cuft in residential works fine.
  5. ditttohead

    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    Lol, you still dont grasp the concept. Maybe I can help.

    1" main line, 10 people in the house, 90 grains hardness, customer wants to maintain decent efficiency and regenerate approximatley every 6-7 days at 6 pounds of salt per cu. ft.

    10 people x 60 GPD x 90 gpg x 6 days between regeenrations =324,000 grains system needed for this application. So you would have no problem installing a 15+ cu. ft. single tank system? According to the logic of Gary, a 30" diameter tank will have no problem with residential flows. The recommended folw rates are just that, recommended. They are design parameters that need to be considered. They are "recommendations", not mandates. Why is it a bad idea to recommend a more appropriate design for an application? A 4 cu. ft. system should work ok. Is it ideal? Is it the best choice? No, but it may be slighly cheaper than a proper twin alternating system.

    Stop looking and digging for conflict where it does not exist.
  6. Tom Sawyer

    Tom Sawyer In the Trades

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    I don't see where he did say low flow was a problem if its intermittent.
  7. Gary Slusser

    Gary Slusser That's all folks!

    Yep, all you've got left is the ability to make up an outrageous and untrue claim about me.

    I agree with your bottom line. In this case a 4.0 would work just fine.
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