How do I get out this Cartridge

Discussion in 'Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog' started by meltpot, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. meltpot

    meltpot New Member

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    Appreciate any advice on how to get out the enclosed cartridge from attached Moen faucet in my shower. Do you recognize the model? I have experience changing the cartridge from the Moen 1225 model on the sink. This looks different.

    :confused:

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  2. Herk

    Herk Plumber

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    First, you need to get one of these:

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    Then you pull the clip out the top (just like the one you're familiar with, except larger) and use the tool to pull the cartridge. They can be sticky sometimes if there is hard water involved. There are both kits and replacement cartridges, which are expensive compared to the 1224.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2008
  3. be careful

    moen is a mean, mean cartridge to get out of
    a faucet.....

    if that is a posi-temp if can be hell to get out


    I am sure you have taken out the codder pin already??

    sometimes the rubber washerr or seals on the cartridge gets jammed into the
    brass water inlets and it literally is a MANHOOD CONTEST
    to pry one of those out....

    its like a right of passage.....


    be very careful not to pull the whole wall down when you
    go to pulling on that unit.....


    the last one I tangled with, I had to get a pair of
    VICE GRIPS and attach them to that brass stem...

    then with a large screwdriver, I used leverage
    against the brass body and the vice grips to pry
    that damn thing out of the socket..... eventually I won....

    WD 40 is advised

    and may the force be with you

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275235,00.html
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  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Positemp

    The standard Moen remover does not fit the Positemp unless it is the newer model. Grab the stem with a pair of visegrip pliers and pull hard, while slightly twisting it. Once it starts to come out, when the tabs are out of their recesses, you will be able to rotate it and then it will slide out easily. Notice which side the "hot" marking is on so you can install the new one the same way.
  5. meltpot

    meltpot New Member

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    Thanks for your kind advice. I will give it another try.
  6. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    I really don't know what these guys are all whining about. There is a small white plastic tool that comes with the new cartridge You just remove the clip slide the tool all the way on and turn it. This frees the cartridge and you pull it out, Then you post back and say how easy it was and ask them just what the heck they where whining about.

    I'd say its probably because they pitch the supplied tool in the trash and try all the wrong tools.
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2008
  7. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    You just have never worked in a hard water area and had to deal with them or your being facetious.
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  8. CASS....hard water makes all the difference

    the nasty water in our state keeps me in business...

    in soft water Colorado, a faucet installed back in 1980
    still looks like the day it was installed and it comes
    apart by hand too....nothing falls apart out there.

    here in the midwest, something put in two years ago
    wiill most likely be a
    .............fight to the death to get apart.....


    I still would be very careful not to yank that
    whole faucet right out of the tile.......

    no mate rwhere you live
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2008
  9. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    positemp

    The Positemp ears sit in recesses, and unless you can turn it so they climb the fairly steep ramps, which is unlikely, you have to pull it out first, and that little white thing is useless to do that.
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