JustNutsandBolts
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Some facts:
Bought this house recently. Problem has been there since the beginning.
- Toilet bowl would try to fill but empty then gurgle when it reached as low as it could go.
- When flushed, water would rush into the bowl from the lower jet but would not flush down the drain.
- I decided to replace the toilet with an American Standard Cadet3 1.28 gallon chair height and it is still doing the same thing
- I poured a 5 gal bucket of water down the old toilet before removing the old one and it flushes really well that way.
- When I pulled the old toilet there was standing water in the line about 2-3" below the flange.
- Last night my master toilet on the same level got clogged and this caused the problem toilet to clog as well (same drain line). I used a plunger on the master toilet and the water in the problem toilet bowl went down as well.
- My master toilet flushes and fills the bowl fine.
- I went on the roof with a hose and poured water down the vent stack, it went down fine.
What is going on here? Is the plumbing wrong?
I don't think there should be standing water in the drain line.
There is standing water in the vent, so I will try snaking it from the roof tomorrow.
Is there anything else I should be doing? I poured boiling hot water down the toilet and it did not help.
I pulled the toilet (which i hate by the way American Standard 1.28 gallon Cadet 3 = will be returning this junk)
Anyway I snaked the line and cleared it, although it did not feel like a terrible clog, one or two forward motions and it was clear.
Get this, there is a trap in the waste line, and I think the toilet cannot flush fast enough because of this.
I still have standing water there.
UPDATE:
Ok made a hole in the ceiling.
The grading is the culprit here.
Some (or most) of the water (and waste) potentially roll backwards to this toilet and that is the water I see when I pull the toilet.
I snaked the heck out of the line hoping it would clear but nothing.
I pumped all the water out of the line then went to the master, flushed and some of the water came back to this problem toilet.
My vent is in the middle of both.
Calling the plumber so he can come re-plumb this mess.
LAST UPDATE:
Cut the pipes, fixed the grading, put fernco in between old and new (had to) , bam it's fixed...
Plumber had to take the master toilet (closest to the 90 elbow going down) out to redo the angles.
$1000 cash job (neighbor's uncle) = well discounted
He said normally it'd cost $1800 but would charge me $1200.
But took the $1000 cash.
ROTO-ROOTER quoted an estimate of $2000 + material = wow
I could have fixed this myself with extra set of hands for <$100 in material if I had the time.
OH well.
Bought this house recently. Problem has been there since the beginning.
- Toilet bowl would try to fill but empty then gurgle when it reached as low as it could go.
- When flushed, water would rush into the bowl from the lower jet but would not flush down the drain.
- I decided to replace the toilet with an American Standard Cadet3 1.28 gallon chair height and it is still doing the same thing
- I poured a 5 gal bucket of water down the old toilet before removing the old one and it flushes really well that way.
- When I pulled the old toilet there was standing water in the line about 2-3" below the flange.
- Last night my master toilet on the same level got clogged and this caused the problem toilet to clog as well (same drain line). I used a plunger on the master toilet and the water in the problem toilet bowl went down as well.
- My master toilet flushes and fills the bowl fine.
- I went on the roof with a hose and poured water down the vent stack, it went down fine.
What is going on here? Is the plumbing wrong?
I don't think there should be standing water in the drain line.
There is standing water in the vent, so I will try snaking it from the roof tomorrow.
Is there anything else I should be doing? I poured boiling hot water down the toilet and it did not help.
I pulled the toilet (which i hate by the way American Standard 1.28 gallon Cadet 3 = will be returning this junk)
Anyway I snaked the line and cleared it, although it did not feel like a terrible clog, one or two forward motions and it was clear.
Get this, there is a trap in the waste line, and I think the toilet cannot flush fast enough because of this.
I still have standing water there.
UPDATE:
Ok made a hole in the ceiling.
The grading is the culprit here.
Some (or most) of the water (and waste) potentially roll backwards to this toilet and that is the water I see when I pull the toilet.
I snaked the heck out of the line hoping it would clear but nothing.
I pumped all the water out of the line then went to the master, flushed and some of the water came back to this problem toilet.
My vent is in the middle of both.
Calling the plumber so he can come re-plumb this mess.
LAST UPDATE:
Cut the pipes, fixed the grading, put fernco in between old and new (had to) , bam it's fixed...
Plumber had to take the master toilet (closest to the 90 elbow going down) out to redo the angles.
$1000 cash job (neighbor's uncle) = well discounted
He said normally it'd cost $1800 but would charge me $1200.
But took the $1000 cash.
ROTO-ROOTER quoted an estimate of $2000 + material = wow
I could have fixed this myself with extra set of hands for <$100 in material if I had the time.
OH well.
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