Have 14 inch rough in, can I install Toto Drake and just leave a gap in the back?

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by Kathy from CA, Mar 20, 2006.

  1. Kathy from CA

    Kathy from CA New Member

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    Hello all,

    I am a novice and would like to thank all of you who contribute to the
    forums. Lots of great information and advice here.

    Remodeling an old bathroom, toilet has a 14 inch rough in, and because the room is small, only a round bowl will fit. I have no experience in changing
    toilets and am trying to educate myself. Is there any reason why we can't
    install a Toto Drake, round bowl, 12 inch rough and just leave a 2 inch
    gap between the wall and the tank? We were planning to put a small
    shelf above the tank and the gap wouldn't be obvious. Thanks in advance
    for your advice.

    Kathy from CA
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    As long as the toilet will fit over the opening in the floor and you are happy with the way it looks, you can install a toilet with as much space behind it as you want. I have had customers want 6" behind the toilet so they could put a shelf unit above it.
  3. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Or you could get something like the Toto Vespin or Carlyle with the 14" unifit adapter...even the elongated bowl would use less room than a standard one with 2" behind it.

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    Toto Vespin II CST474CEFG with SS114 Softclose seat.
    This bowl was installed on a 13-1/2" rough-in using the 14" Unifit adapter.
    The water shutoff can be as close as 5-1/2" to the left of center, unless it's higher off the floor, and then it can be even closer to center.
    This shutoff had been replaced with a new 1/4 turn valve with brass nipple through the wall.
    Installation was by James Love of Love Plumbing & Remodel 206-949-5683
    In some of the older Seattle homes, the old toilets had been wall mounted tank toilets.
    Those typically are 14" rough-in and need a flange repair to use standard closet bolt connections at the flange.
    Everything is on the truck for that.
    The Vespin comes with a standard 12" adapter or you can order a 10" or 14" adapter depending on your rough-in distance.
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